Oh damn, now I'm going to have to drive the Manta in Sweden again...

I could take the Lancia S4, but for some reason I have trouble getting it over the finish line in one piece. And then there's the fact that the Opel is just stupidly fun. I won't do very well I think, but at least I'll enjoy failing.

Hi guys,

can I join? I already requested to join (I guess ... not sure, because there is no message that I did).

hodasemiHi guys,

can I join? I already requested to join (I guess ... not sure, because there is no message that I did).

Accepted. Welcome to the League!

Thanks, I already made my times in the first 3 tracks.

Holy crap, this was lot of fun. Opted to Manta also It behaves really like my real life icetrack car, just with a lot more power. Had serious fun with and and mostly it was clean racing, except i could have gone faster in many places but didnt feel the car quite yet.

Don't think the times are competitive against the 4WD though, but lets wait and see.

Summary:

S1: clean
S2: clean
S3: spin
S4: clean
S5: clean
S6: clean
S7: clean

XpanderHoly crap, this was lot of fun. Opted to Manta also It behaves really like my real life icetrack car, just with a lot more power. Had serious fun with and and mostly it was clean racing, except i could have gone faster in many places but didnt feel the car quite yet.

I don't think I've ever done a clean run on any Swedish stage, in any car...

What kind of setup did you use? Just curious.

tuubi

XpanderHoly crap, this was lot of fun. Opted to Manta also It behaves really like my real life icetrack car, just with a lot more power. Had serious fun with and and mostly it was clean racing, except i could have gone faster in many places but didnt feel the car quite yet.

I don't think I've ever done a clean run on any Swedish stage, in any car...

What kind of setup did you use? Just curious.

pretty much default, dampers 2 clicks to the firm side only

Chose the Manta aswell to keep the competition interesting, as the 4wd cars a way too fast. Shouldn't really have both against each other. I dunno if they were closer in real life or not. But It's like 1970's vs 2010.

I pushed as hard as I dared, but in the end Xpander came out 40ish seconds ahead. I noticed a few places I could go faster, but no hope of matching those times without risking crashing.

SkullyChose the Manta aswell to keep the competition interesting, as the 4wd cars a way too fast. Shouldn't really have both against each other. I dunno if they were closer in real life or not. But It's like 1970's vs 2010.

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Although the Audi Quattro was still in essence a Group 4 car, it carried Hannu Mikkola to the driver's title in 1983. Lancia had designed a new car to Group B specifications, but the Lancia 037 still had rear wheel drive and was thus less consistent than the Audi over different surfaces (generally the Lancia had the upper hand on tarmac, with the Audi remaining superior on looser surfaces such as snow and gravel). Nevertheless, the 037 performed well enough for Lancia to capture the manufacturers title with a rally to spare, which was generally considered more prestigious at the time. In fact, so low was Lancia's regard for the Drivers Championship, they did not enter a single car into the season finale RAC Rally, despite the fact that driver Walter Röhrl was still in the hunt for the title.


Russell Brookes' Opel Manta 400.
The low homologation requirements quickly attracted manufacturers to Group B. Opel replaced their production-derived Ascona with the Group B Manta 400, and Toyota built a new car based on their Celica. Like the Lancia 037 both cars were rear wheel drive, but, while successful in national rallying in various countries, they were less so at World Championship level, although Toyota won the 1983 Ivory Coast Rally after hiring Swedish desert driving specialist, the late Björn Waldegård.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_B


So RWD ones were competing against 4WD ones, but weren't that good on loose surfaces. And yeah they also had less HP, that was a bit before the HP race started.

Nice info, thank you. I did realize they really did compete against each other. What I meant is I am not sure if the RWD were really this bad against the 4WD. Because at least in this game it can be as big as 10-20sec per stage. Making the Mantra compete with a RWD car from the 1960's for times.

A good example of this is https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=462311586
Scroll to the "overall leader board" Although the results are from one guy. This guy is amazing at that track. He has video footage on youtube for every car on that track getting the times he states.

03:29.824 - Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEHwBPjUv1g
03:52.024 - Renault Alpine A110 / 1960's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ccoeEW848
03:52.657 - Opel Manta 400 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEETsO7w4Sw