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Title: Want a new GPU. Any advice ?
Zelox 13 Aug 2019
Hi! As the title says Im looking for a new gpu.
I know a bit more about Nvidia card but Im leaning to an AMD card, mostly because Iv heard, its easyer with
drivers and support, they are open source with there code and seems to be more open in generel, correnct me if Im wrong ^^.
And my lack of knowlage in AMD cards make me open this thread.

So today I got an old GTX 770, still doing good in some games, but Im starting to get low performence.
The price point I would consider is around 200 - 250 € maybe 300 € if it got that little extra. I would also want this card to last me about 2 - 3 years with good performance, support VR and stuff like that ^^.

Any advice ? ^^
tuubi 13 Aug 2019
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Quoting: ZeloxThe price point I would consider is around 2 - 2.5k maybe 3 k if it got that little extra.
Surely not €/$/£? SEK or NOK maybe?
Zelox 13 Aug 2019
Quoting: tuubi
Quoting: ZeloxThe price point I would consider is around 2 - 2.5k maybe 3 k if it got that little extra.
Surely not €/$/£? SEK or NOK maybe?
Sry haha, I was thinking in SEK ^^.
So around 200 - 300 €
tuubi 13 Aug 2019
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For 300€ or under, you could get a decent RX 590 or maybe a discounted Vega 56 from the AMD side. As for Nvidia, you'd be looking at a 1660 (TI). All of these are quite a bit faster than your 770, but maybe not powerful enough to smoothly run all the latest VR titles for the next couple of years. Then again, I don't know much about VR, so don't quote me on that.
Shmerl 13 Aug 2019
Sapphire released Pulse versions of 5700 and 5700XT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJCm7bnOf

Probably 5700 should be closer to your budget.
tuubi 13 Aug 2019
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Quoting: ShmerlProbably 5700 should be closer to your budget.
Can you actually find a Sapphire Pulse 5700 under 400€ somewhere? Shipped to Sweden, mind you. Even that wouldn't help if his budget's under 300€.
Shmerl 13 Aug 2019
Non XT version should be cheaper, 400€ sounds pretty high.

Sapphire Pulse 5700 XT is $410 on Newegg:
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-100416p8gl/p/N82E16814202349

Pulse 5700 should hit the stores soon, and should be cheaper.
Shmerl 13 Aug 2019
Newegg now lists Sapphire Pulse 5700 for $360. Unless it's very inflated in euros for some reason, it should be a good fit.
tuubi 14 Aug 2019
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Quoting: ShmerlNewegg now lists Sapphire Pulse 5700 for $360. Unless it's very inflated in euros for some reason, it should be a good fit.
The Pulse 5700 is a very nice GPU, but anything over 300 € / 3000 SEK is not a good fit at all if that's the limit. Even if you naively convert that $360 at bank exchange rates and ignore shipping costs, taxes and everything else, it's still too expensive.
Zelox 14 Aug 2019
Thanks guys.
Is there an equalent in Nvidia to the nx 5700 and the 5700 without the nx :P? It's seems to be a bit pricy, but could check some comparing videos and reviews.
lucinos 14 Aug 2019
Quoting: ZeloxThanks guys.
Is there an equalent in Nvidia to the nx 5700 and the 5700 without the nx :P? It's seems to be a bit pricy, but could check some comparing videos and reviews.
They are more pricy.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=navi-august-2019&num=6

Also I am always saying no more nvidia now that open source drivers are so good.
Zelox 15 Aug 2019
Quoting: lucinos
Quoting: ZeloxThanks guys.
Is there an equalent in Nvidia to the nx 5700 and the 5700 without the nx :P? It's seems to be a bit pricy, but could check some comparing videos and reviews.
They are more pricy.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=navi-august-2019&num=6

Also I am always saying no more nvidia now that open source drivers are so good.
Well the reason I wanna compair is to know I what class the nx 5700 is. Nvidia is more "user friendly", cause there cards is most of the time rated like, the higher number in the card name, the more powerful card. 1080 is more powerful then 1050. Amd atlest to my knowlage is numbers all over the place :P. How is the 590 compared to nx 5700, I can watch stats ofc, but with an Nvidia card I can kinde of know just by hearing the number. My next card will be Amd, I'm just lost atm ?.
Shmerl 15 Aug 2019
I agree, AMD naming schemes are totally confusing, especially they change them all the time.

Probably something like this:

RX 590 < RX Vega 56 < RX 5700 < RX Vega 64 < RX 5700XT
Zelox 15 Aug 2019
Quoting: ShmerlI agree, AMD naming schemes are totally confusing, especially they change them all the time.

Probably something like this:

RX 590 < RX Vega 56 < RX 5700 < RX Vega 64 < RX 5700XT
Thanks alot. I think Im leaning to a Sapphire Radeon RX 590 8GB.
Seems to be a decent card for the price, and its right under my budget ^^.
KrejsyLainen 16 Aug 2019
I got a Vega 56 for about 3000kr some months ago, it's quite the jump over a 590 and on Linux you won't have to deal with nVidias proprietary drivers
https://www.computersalg.se/i/4146199/gigabyte-radeon-rx-vega-56-gaming

(jag antar att jag skulle kunna skriva på svenska, men för att vara lite trevlig mot resten här)
Shmerl 16 Aug 2019
I think RX 5700 is priced around what Vega 56 used to be, but in result Vega 56 cards got discounted. Especially if you buy used ones, you can find them for less than $300. Just make sure if you buy used cards that they aren't from some cryptocurrency miners. Those cards are likely wasted due to constantly running at full load for a very long time.
Zelox 16 Aug 2019
Quoting: KrejsyLainenI got a Vega 56 for about 3000kr some months ago, it's quite the jump over a 590
Seems to be a little bit over my budget, but maybe there is a sale somewhere.

Quoting: GuestI bought used 1070 for 200 eur few weeks ago. Absolutely zero problems on closed source drivers. There's also some work done on multi gpu support (useful for igpu+dgpu combo) so I'm optimistic about the future.
The Nvidia ppa is in the Ubuntu update by default now as well. I got nothing against Nvidia, the 770 served me great and for a long time. The only problem I have I guess is there why of patenting there code, while amd shares. But personaly I just want to try amd :).
Pangaea 16 Aug 2019
Quoting: ShmerlI agree, AMD naming schemes are totally confusing, especially they change them all the time.

Probably something like this:

RX 590 < RX Vega 56 < RX 5700 < RX Vega 64 < RX 5700XT
Do they intend to have a more sensible naming scheme going forward? It's very confusing, and for normal customers that's going to be a reason to go with the safe option of Nvidia.

Quoting: ZeloxSeems to be a little bit over my budget, but maybe there is a sale somewhere.

The Nvidia ppa is in the Ubuntu update by default now as well. I got nothing against Nvidia, the 770 served me great and for a long time. The only problem I have I guess is there why of patenting there code, while amd shares. But personaly I just want to try amd :).
Have had Nvidia for many years now, and currently have 770. It's still fine for my purposes, although I'm also eagerly looking at the new playthings from AMD, and I've had no problems with drivers from the PPA. Obviously it's better to be (more) open, but at the end of the day, as long as it works...?

You may be aware of this site already, but it's a great one for checking prices and comparing products: https://www.prisjakt.nu/ (we have .no on the other side of the border).

Always discouraging to see prices in Scandinavia vs UK/US, but I don't think the difference is quite as large as it was some years ago.
Shmerl 18 Aug 2019
Quoting: PangaeaDo they intend to have a more sensible naming scheme going forward? It's very confusing, and for normal customers that's going to be a reason to go with the safe option of Nvidia.
Not sure about their plans, but I don't think it affects most people in regards to GPU choices. It's not hard to figure out performance levels for those who need to buy a new GPU. I'd never trust names for it anyway, always look for benchmarks when buying new hardware.
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