Quoting: Liam DaweOkay so no one has issues with the current questions and answers I assume since this has gone completely off the topic.

Sorry for that. Touched a healing wound for me.

Already filled mine in. :tongue:

Quoting: Liam DaweOkay so no one has issues with the current questions and answers I assume since this has gone completely off the topic. Will leave open for a bit to see if anyone does otherwise will consider it done.

Now that I have the "Yes/No/Sometimes" selection right in front of me, I'm thinking "Well, (x)No, but I probably would if my hardware supported it, so (x)Yes or (x)Sometimes?". Selecting "No" feels wrong somehow, but leaving it empty does so too.
Maybe it needs another pair of options "(x)Would if I could"/"(x)Wouldn't if my life depended on it".
I mean, it's there in the VR info ("not/planning to get..."), so why not here as well.

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If you're not planning to, or you don't have it at all - then it's just "No". It doesn't need to be made complicated.

However, if people feel strongly about having a "Not supported" type of answer, I could add one in.

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Quoting: Liam DaweIf you're not planning to, or you don't have it at all - then it's just "No". It doesn't need to be made complicated.

However, if people feel strongly about having a "Not supported" type of answer, I could add one in.

I would say that it shouldn't be there. Whether you don't have the feature, or you have the feature but it doesn't work, or you have the feature but turn it off, the outcome is still the same: you aren't using that feature.

I'd say "yes" and "no" should suffice. "Sometimes" is not needed either, because then you get the ambiguity of how often "sometimes" is and when should it turn to a "yes"?

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Quoting: LinasI'd say "yes" and "no" should suffice. "Sometimes" is not needed either, because then you get the ambiguity of how often "sometimes" is and when should it turn to a "yes"?

That's more a case of showing they have it supported, so they use it sometimes. As opposed to having "yes, no, supported but don't use it, don't have it" etc etc.

How about "supported" and "not supported" then?

Quoting: LinasHow about "supported" and "not supported" then?

Well, not supported is just "No". Supported would be either No because they don't use it, Yes because they use it or Sometimes ;)

"Supported" can be a bit misleading. For example, the monitor can support adaptive sync / VRR, but on Wayland most compositors don't provide support for it yet, so you can't use it.

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I have a G-Sync monitor, and a G-Sync enabled card, but i can't use it because NVIDIA only supports G-Sync for single monitor setups (it technically still works if the game covers all the monitors). I would like an option for it not being supported by the display server.

If you use multiple monitors VRR is as far as i know only supported by Sway on Wayland for AMD users. It would be interesting to see how many people end up not using VRR because it isn't properly supported, since 38% have multiple monitors. And i believe Sway is the only wayland compositor with VRR support as of now, like Shmerl said.

Here are the relevant threads on wayland VRR support for [KDE](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405912) and [GNOME](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1154). Arch wiki also covers some of the [limitations of using VRR on linux](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Variable_refresh_rate#Limitations)

The wording could be something like "Configuration not supported by display server", which covers X.org, and covers wayland KWin and Mutter, but this might require more clarifications. Xpander mentioned turning off monitors to be able to use it, i guess this would be covered by sometimes, and you would select this option if you don't want to turn off monitors.

Anyway, the new options seem pretty useful, it will be interesting to see the numbers.

The question right now is great. You use it or not, regardless of the reason.

It’s Liam who should decide if he wants more granular info for his stats, like I don’t like the name, I don’t like HDMI, my server doesn’t support it or whatever.

Quoting: damarrinThe question right now is great. You use it or not, regardless of the reason.

Yeah, right now that's pretty much how we want it to be, so it doesn't overload users with lots of different types of answers.

First, sorry to join in late, I just noticed this thread :unsure:.

Quoting: MorguldirI have a G-Sync monitor, and a G-Sync enabled card, but i can't use it because NVIDIA only supports G-Sync for single monitor setups (it technically still works if the game covers all the monitors). I would like an option for it not being supported by the display server.

I am in the same boat. I have dual monitor setup, and my main monitor can display at 144Hz, 180Hz in overdrive mode. However, since my secondary monitor is capped at 75Hz, so is my main monitor... unless I disconnect my secondary monitor.

So, currently, I answered "refresh rate" at 75Hz, and "Using VRR" as sometimes, but the truth is, I am limited by the support in Linux, and not by my hardware capabilities.

I am not sure how to reflect this in the configuration survey, unless maybe duplicating questions, something like:

- Capable refresh rate: [List of rates]
- Capable VRR : Yes/No
- Used refresh rate: [List of rates]
- Used VRR: Yes/No/Sometimes

Quoting: furaxhornyx- Capable VRR : Yes/No

Now that is something that might work here that keeps it simple while still giving more info. Will think a bit more on it. I just don't want it to be overly complicated but as shown, something like VRR is not simple...