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So I'm wondering if there is any distros out there that is stable enough for everyday work use that is wayland based and that is at least gnome 2 like ?
From my own research ( read; casual googling )
- Gnome 41 is trying to even ban themes, and the default is trying to be OSX
- KDE might be an option, I'd have to switch away from all gtk based apps I'm currently using?
- Cinnamon can't be bothered with wayland as they dont belive it's a mature project
so that leaves what.. ?
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Mate is based off of Gnome and has some support for Wayland. I'd give it a try.
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I don't know - last i tired KDE it looked like windows xp on drugs and installing something that pulled in gtk packages I broke the distro so basly I had to do a reinstall.
Guess I'm asking if there is usable interoperability between gtk/gnome apps and KDE theese days 😁
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Both Qt & GTK do a pretty good job of emulating (or rather adapting) the other's look nowadays, as long as you don't stray from the *default* themes (Breeze for KDE/Qt; Adwaita for GNOME/GTK). You may have to install an extra package (e.g. on Fedora, libadwaita-qt{5,6}; and breeze-gtk); but there's no additional setup to do. (As usual, on KDE you *can* tweak things if you like.)
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The only complaint I can imagine is that depending on the app it might bring in a ton of dependencies, or it might not totally match the system theme/style perfectly.
It's there a specific gtk app you can't live without? KDE had a very robust array of apps. I find the general ones pretty similar in terms of features.
There's a thread here talking about Wayland ready DE's (there aren't many) and another talking about a bug with KDE's Wayland, FYI.
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having recently done a complete reinstall I've a fairly good overview over which programs I absolutely need to do my job - the rest being the "suger on top" which could conceivably be replaced by something else;
🤔 I honestly expected the list to be a whole lot longer
Before I pull the 1 gig of data kde-full requires to have it as an alternative desktop on mint, is there a significant difference between KDE 5.18 and 5.23 ?
I'd prefer to avoid another complete reinstall, but on the other hand if wayland/pirewire/etc is only fully supported in 5.23 then there isn't much point in wasting time with an 'older' version ;)
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I am currently on KDE with wayland and I mix GTK apps (Firefox, LibreOffice), Qt apps and an app from Enlightenment (Terminology). Only problem I had was GTK apps opening with ~25 sec delay which was resolved by uninstalling xdg-desktop-portal.
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Not to hijavk this thread to much, but could you explain your reasoning behind this? I've not used mint in a long long time, but shouldn't the season be an option when logging in on the DM? I'm genuinely curious.
I must confess I'm on a different distro, which is rolling, so I have the newest version. If you're able to get it, that's what I would use. Wayland in KDE isn't perfect, so a newer version should have better support.
I'm also sure you know this, but just to throw it out there, KDE has a ton of... Suite programs (?). If your looking for a small install, it might be worth making sure apt isn't pulling in "recommends" or "suggested". I literally had to blacklist the zypper equivalent of meta packages, because it wanted to pull in a ton of extra KDE apps I did not need.
I do know GIMP works fine in KDE. It was installed by default on my system.
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