Quoting: BeamboomI find some of those whitelisted as downright *weird* that they've spent time on testing. Looks so ridiculously random.

They've got unpublished test results. The initial batches of published test results were just to test the store interface, with limited numbers in case it didn't work. I expect they wanted a range of ways that the testing failed so that they tested each part of the interface.

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Quoting: EikeSeems they're going for it! :heart:

Well they got Steam sales for these ones from me even though I'd bought the GOG versions before, so they'll get at least one more Steam sale of the others that they do as well.

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Fingers crossed they're going to do all of them. Resonance has a Linux version on GOG, I think, but not on Steam because GOG packaged it themselves back in the day.

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Quoting: propertyWe're currently at about 0.3M monthly active gamers there and are hopefully bound to be in the millions within the next two years.

1.3M monthly active. The 0.3M is how many have been on at the same time.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeMy other worry is all the people that will just buy this and install Windows on it... seems to defeat the purpose of the Deck for me; as who wants to deal with another Windows install...

I think very few people will, and the ones that do will have a miserable time; the reviews of other handheld devices that come with Windows have been universal in saying that Windows is terrible for a device like this. But for the ones that do, and get utility out of it, good luck to them; it's their device to do as they wish.

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Quoting: toorThe verification process for steam deck compatibility doesn't take into account if it's optimized for the hardware of the Steam deck at all.

It does, but 720p at 30 fps at default settings isn't a particularly high bar to clear with this hardware.

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Quoting: elmapul"Mad Max" ironic, this game used to have an native version

It still does: Feral's licence for WB IP expired. You can still buy it and Steam will install the native version, but the people that did the Linux version won't get paid for it.

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Quoting: Liam DaweThe problem is really Valve's marketing there on how they tell developers stuff should just run. However, the more developers that get a Steam Deck and the more players that get one, developers will inevitably be forced to actually test with Proton.

Marketing, yes, but the documentation [External Link] says that they need to test, and gives instructions.

Quoting: rustybroomhandleI should hope that if one reports a game as broken after an update on a Steam Deck that whomever handles support at Valve will be able to mark it as such. Valve is not huge on housekeeping though, but maybe the Steam Deck has changed this a bit. It'd be a mindset shift that would benefit Windows gamers too.

Valve have said that if they get reports then they'll retest, and there may be games that lose the verified mark because of that. But the developers will have already got the money; I give more money to developers that provide more Linux support. Supported native version: 100%; supported Proton version: 50%; unsupported version: maybe 10%.

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One thing that I'd like developers to do is confirm that if their game is running through Proton and is Deck Verified, that they are also testing their game through Proton themselves - especially before they release updates. It would make a big difference to how much money I'm willing to give them. Hopefully they won't want to lose their nice checkmark, so they will test, but if they don't say they're testing then I'm going to assume that they're not.

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Quoting: EhvisI wonder which Mad Max was "verfied". Native standard, native vulkan-beta or proton.

Cannot be something different from what you get by default IMHO.

While I think that's likely true for these titles, it's not actually strictly the case in general; it would be what you get by default on the Steam Deck.

If developers put up a depot of lower-res textures for use on devices with small screens, the Deck can be given that automatically, and the old Proton whitelist has been replaced by automatically applying options listed in the manifest of general games. So the version that you get by default on the Steam Deck (which is the version that will have verification testing) isn't necessarily the same as the version that you'd get by default on any other Linux machine.

In most cases they'll be the same, because no one wants extra work and Valve want to show with the Deck that Linux is a viable gaming platform, but they won't necessarily be the same in all cases.

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