Quoting: BmsiHi can I use this game with VR mod I end this game in VR mod and I love to have 3d monster in my game

No idea, sorry. Ask on the GZDoom discord, they're very helpful.

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Quoting: anewsonI've always loved the NUC computers, now with Thunderbolt 3 I think it's finally viable for gaming[...]

Maybe I missed something, could you please explain how Thunderbolt 3 is that important for gaming ?

for an eGPU, no need to take offense if you don't need one for your games of choice :D

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awesome that it's native, that's a nice bit of differentiation right there

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looks like they were going for something in between Serious Sam and Doom but didn't stick the landing.

Also, agreed that unskippable cutscenes, especially intros, are a cardinal sin.

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I've always loved the NUC computers, now with Thunderbolt 3 I think it's finally viable for gaming. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to get one we have AMD Thunderbolt...

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Quoting: scaineBoth Spellbook Demonslayers and Nomad Survival allow for second-stick aiming, but there's only a tiny handful of weapons where that's an issue, since most weapons are auto-target, or AOE around you, or a random spot. Some always target in front, or behind, so the aiming weapons occasionally give you some tactical advantages.

To that end, I still think the fourth criteria that really matters is the auto-shoot mechanic.

I agree, a lot of comments are focusing on the autofiring mechanic to more strongly differentiate from twin stick shooters (eg the people mentioning Robotron). But besides the two you mentioned, 20 Minutes till Dawn is very much twin-stick, and Soulstone Survivors has characters with twin-stick attacks, so I focus more on the other differentiating factors (eg, the roguelike influence). I do like "Single-stick shooter" as a genre descriptor though.

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Quoting: Penglinghings simple, would I be best off just checking out Vampire Survivors first (as opposed to other titles that take the idea in different directions) to see if it does indeed overlap with my tastes as it sounds like it might?

Questions aside, veteran Japanese developer Sunsoft is currently staging a comeback, and one of their new offerings will be Ikki Unite [External Link], a up-to-16-player title which they've apparently said is somewhat Vampire Survivors-inspired.

yeah, probably check out VS first - you can also try the free prologues for Soulstone Survivors or, as scaine mentioned, Spellbook Demonslayers (which I haven't tried yet). I hadn't heard about Ikki Unite, from the trailer it definitely looks like it belongs in the genre

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Quoting: JpxeSounds good, up until now I called them Vampslike :grin:

hah nice, a lot easier than Vampire Survivors-like.

Quoting: MayeulCWell, then would Risk of Rain (and the second) qualify?

Reminds me a bit of Ubermosh too :)

A fellow Ubermosh enjoyer! Great game.

RoR is an interesting case, it hadn't actually occurred to me. It does more or less fit the criteria, although I think there's less choice and more luck in making your build. Runs also play out across several maps and it's a sidescroller; I'm tempted lump it in with Gunlocked as a liminal case?

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Quoting: anewsonthe dungeons games are great, but if anyone out there likes the genre and hasn't played War for the Overworld, check it out as well!

I would love this genre, except everything post-Dungeon Keeper seems to be allergic to active/tactical pause. *sigh*

I'm your opinion, how does it compare to dungeon keeper? I really liked off the wall humor of the first one. I think it's expect no less from the genre

humour is subjective but I found WFTO humour much funnier than the Dungeons series, and closer to the original series (they also bring back the original dungeon keeper narrator for some bone-dry sarcasm). I think I'd agree that the monsters you get are less memorable in WFTO than in DK1/DK2, but there's also a lot more variety. WFTO also leans a little heavier into RTS mechanics than the original series (and more than the Dungeons series), which takes some getting used to, but I found it to be great.

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the dungeons games are great, but if anyone out there likes the genre and hasn't played War for the Overworld, check it out as well!

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