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Quoting: Guest8.6 tflops is crazy number for a handheld device, it is twice bigger than ps4pro, on par with rtx2070 tier GPU, and just a bit behind current gen consoles. you literally can replace a decent gaming pc with it

And that's probably all it's good for, to be honest. To get that kind of speed, you have to run it at full power and barely get an hour of battery life. Coupled with the clunky Windows UI and half-baked Asus software, it would be better to use it plugged into a monitor on a desk than as a handheld. It makes sense if you want it instead of a gaming laptop. For a desktop, you can still build a cheaper machine. In fact, I just built one for my living room, and it runs SteamOS. :grin:

like i said previously im not sure this thing is really at 8.6TF. i could be wrong but it says "Upto".
So this might just be false advertising / marketing.. like, Technically if you ran the thing in desktop APU environment it might be .. idk seems a bit high seen as the steam deck is 1.6TF and terraflops can be measured in different ways to inflate the number.

Steam desk is 15W =1.6TF
ROG Ally is max 30W at 8.6TF

I know its a new generation RDNA but the extreme variant doesn't actually have anything different architecturally than the basic Z1 its just able to use more power.. so your paying $100 for a software boost if anything. You might actually be able to unlock the basic version with a firmware update.

https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-z1 [External Link]

It's possible that the measure of value for TFLOPS is not based on even the 30W limit but just theoretical. Or i could be wrong and that's the right number.

BTW that number is actually closer to a RTX2070-Super than a stock 2070. Which has a 215W TDP ...

maybe they are including the ability to an external gpu?

maybe idk.

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Quoting: melkemind

Quoting: Guest8.6 tflops is crazy number for a handheld device, it is twice bigger than ps4pro, on par with rtx2070 tier GPU, and just a bit behind current gen consoles. you literally can replace a decent gaming pc with it

And that's probably all it's good for, to be honest. To get that kind of speed, you have to run it at full power and barely get an hour of battery life. Coupled with the clunky Windows UI and half-baked Asus software, it would be better to use it plugged into a monitor on a desk than as a handheld. It makes sense if you want it instead of a gaming laptop. For a desktop, you can still build a cheaper machine. In fact, I just built one for my living room, and it runs SteamOS. :grin:

like i said previously im not sure this thing is really at 8.6TF. i could be wrong but it says "Upto".
So this might just be false advertising / marketing.. like, Technically if you ran the thing in desktop APU environment it might be .. idk seems a bit high seen as the steam deck is 1.6TF and terraflops can be measured in different ways to inflate the number.

Steam desk is 15W =1.6TF
ROG Ally is max 30W at 8.6TF

I know its a new generation RDNA but the extreme variant doesn't actually have anything different architecturally than the basic Z1 its just able to use more power.. so your paying $100 for a software boost if anything. You might actually be able to unlock the basic version with a firmware update.

https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-z1 [External Link]

It's possible that the measure of value for TFLOPS is not based on even the 30W limit but just theoretical. Or i could be wrong and that's the right number.

BTW that number is actually closer to a RTX2070-Super than a stock 2070. Which has a 215W TDP ...

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Quoting: Guest8.6 tflops is crazy number for a handheld device, it is twice bigger than ps4pro, on par with rtx2070 tier GPU, and just a bit behind current gen consoles. you literally can replace a decent gaming pc with it

Do you really think this is going to be as fast as an RTX2070 ? Im might be wrong, but im sensing something off with spending $100 more and getting Three Times the performance :huh:

Normally spending $100 more gets you a bigger SSD and a matte finish on a display.

Also the screen on this is 16:9 so it's an inferior aspect ratio.

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I wonder how long it will take to compile on AMD Graphics once the new shader speedup code arrives. Maybe it will end up being faster on AMD FOSS drivers than NVidia to compile shaders eventually.

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The title of the article should have been: "1000's of free Viruses are now available on Steamdeck"

joking aside.. that isn't a joke. Nor is the 'OS level' (before you say valve mines too) data mining.

i think il pass.

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Quoting: damarrinIf you want to just sit on the couch and press buttons go right ahead

when im in VR i am flying on my couch.

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Quoting: ShabbyXNever had I paid so much attention to power until the Steam Deck, and specifically just a few days ago when I started replaying Shadow of Mordor. I went in with the expectation that I should set everything to low, ended up setting everything to Ultra and it still runs the game at 40fps without hitches and consumes just 12 watts.

It looks crazy now that a desktop GPU's _idle_ power is as much as the Steam Deck playing a not-so-basic game.

Im watching some steamdeck playthrough's. Im always amazed at how they are able to put a mix of high/ultra and get 30-60fps on the deck. Sure it's 720p or with FSR a bit lower but AFAIK at 40fps the frametimes are similar to 60fps so it's not so bad.
It's making me wonder when will monitor manufacturers offer a 40hz mode for their monitors, that could help people on lower end hardware.

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Quoting: KlaasWhen was the last big release where everything worked on release? You spend more money and are rewarded with a miserable experience.

I wonder if this is why retro gaming has become so big. Things just work and are mostly without bugs, even then the glitches/bugs are often funny. Ohh and you can game in 4k on an old PC still :grin:

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Instead of manufacturing artificial supply and demand & now artificial supply of frame rates. hows about both AMD & Nvidia try selling cheaper GPU's with better value for money. You know, seen as we are in a cost of living crisis and deliberate market manipulation is pricing a huge number of people out of PC gaming for eternity.

Yes I know, i know, new technology good 'im missing the point' etc..

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Fix PooShooter: Toilet Invaders starting to a black screen.

You could say the game shat itself.

Disappointed it wasn't a brown screen.

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