Quoting: Purple Library GuyYay! Fire, crime and diseases!

Coming to a City near you!

ohh wait.. :unsure:

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Quoting: SamsaiMy previous laptop was a sort of an experiment with an APU and an AMD dGPU but the experience there turned out to be somewhat poor too since the paired dGPU wasn't significantly faster specs-wise and due to whatever overhead it consistently performed worse than just using the APU, although at least it didn't come with a laundry list of Nvidia annoyances on top of it all.

The gaming performance on integrated graphics is naturally what you'd expect, but I whatever light gaming I intend to do when I'm actually laptop-bound works just fine on such a setup.

Mobile APU gaming might be the future, less hassle than with hybrid setups. The market predicts an uptick in demand for laptops in 2022 (not to mention handheld devices like Samsungs AMD APU smart phones and of course the steam deck).

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Quoting: setzer22At this point, I'd take AMD's powerful integrated graphics over nvidia's crappy mobile GPUs any time of the day.

Not to be too pedantic but nvidia's mobile GPU's are the fastest on the market and most feature rich, they are not crappy the software that supports it is.

I have been looking into laptops recently and ohh boy..
The situation with laptops and gaming is such a convoluted topic, not only do you have to contend with hybrid graphics not switching properly or having to specify commands per app as you mentioned. Things like 'smart power management' software like AMD has that constantly shuffles the power between CPU+GPU means you never get the full TDP GPU power and CPU at the same time even on wall power unless you connect an external monitor and then your not using that shiny expensive QHD/4k screen anymore.
IF you have to contend with models that have No MUX switch (a hardware switch that you can enable in BIOS to only use the dedicated GPU for the times you want a desktop replacement laptop or are on wall power) you almost never even have the capability to get maximum performance, your top end laptop GPU is performing closer to a midrange model. Finally due to chip shortages that don't appear to be getting any better gaming laptops are shipping with RAM that has poor/loose timings even though the frequency and amount is the same as the better stuff and this can loose upto 15%-20% performance under some titles! again taking your laptop gaming beast down to the performance level of something cheaper.

Due to the mega inflated prices right now, it would be probably better to get a proper mobile experience with intel integrated graphics model and use a separate desktop for gaming OR get a laptop with a powerful CPU and then use an external TB or M.2 connected GPU dock for when your stationary, at least the GPU is upgradeble and the system will last as long as any desktop.

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Quoting: CatKillerIf they say something negative about their competitor then they make themselves look bad and give their competitor good publicity. By saying something positive they have an opportunity to cast themselves as the good guys while promoting their own product. Sweeney did exactly the same thing.

Valve have been working with MS to ensure windows runs smoothly on the deck & that TPM issues are sorted out. Someone said on the initial deck thread that windows 11 won't work on the steam deck because the screen is too small, but that doesn't appear to be the case now. So Im not sure competitor works in this instance.

Xcloud on the deck ? The product here is windows 11 compatibility on the steam deck.

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Quoting: PublicNuisanceBut I was assured that the Steam Deck would usher in a new era of Linux gaming ! Once again the branch of reality snaps back into the face of some people. When many of the customers no longer care about native why should the developers ?

I think a lot more people are going to install windows on it than some people here think (valve have been working with Microsoft to get windows11 working on the Deck apparently). But as people have said multiple times if even 50% of deck users don't install windows then that will be hundreds of thousands or eventually millions of new Linux users by proxy if they keep releasing new decks. That will bring in many optimizations & support for hardware and software on Linux.

Steam deck aside, not everyone in the Linux sphere considers proton to be the be all and end all of Linux gaming. But Proton has ushered in a new era of 'gaming-on-top-of-linux' already. It may not be 'pure enough' to FOSS ideals but it's not totally closed off either and is still heavily based on FOSS software.You can argue that windows games on Linux are not technically FOSS gaming at all if you want but then you can say the very same thing for using the steam client to begin with. When you use Linux exclusively you accept a compromise. Be that less "AAA" software, non existent,reduced or less fully featured hardware support or choosing to run closed source binary drivers, not to mention wrappers/emulation.

It's all about striking a balance but it's still way better than using windows.

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Quoting: StalePopcorn

Quoting: DerRiddaThere is no magic happening with Squad.
Squad works…

Wait, wait, wait…Squad works in Proton!?!?

EDIT: It apparently does [External Link]!

This is a game i really want to try out on Linux, but given the cost of the game and the 'working for now' status of proton, im going to wait until EAC is officially endorsed as supported by Valve.

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Quoting: GuestWhy are you guys angry at this developer? "No support at all" is the Proton way!

It's not anger, it's merely observational. But i appreciate the satire of your comment and i kind of agree. we can't just rely on proton for Linux gaming.

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Quoting: BasianiEAC loading screen appears also on HALO, but it does nothing. I mean first launch option, not second one with disabled anti-cheat.
This is early access of game, so it's normal that thare is anti-cheat that really doesn't do its job before full release of game.
Offtopic but new Battlefield 2042 will be with EAC secured.

There are just too many popular titles to count that aren't playable on Linux due to anti-cheat. And the list is only going to keep growing.That's not to say there are not many games that are still playable and they are still just as fun, but for the masses those big AAA/AA titles are what create the notion of a platform even being relevant at all.

fortunately it sounds like the push for steamdeck will save the day at least when it comes to that aspect of Linux gaming.

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Quoting: GuestThe Steam flatpak experience is awful, mine wouldn't allow me to use my gamepads for some reason - and adding games from an external HDD was really hard at one point, so that one is the distribution's package. I haven't tried it in a while, maybe it has improved over time.

did you try flatseal ? its the best way of managing flatpaks and their permissions & folder access.

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Noice!

thanks Liam.

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