I played Diablo IV at a friend's PC and what I hated about it is that you get to meet other players randomly. I am supposed to be The One To Save The World! ... except there's also buffoon27 next to me, who's The One To Save The World as well. And there's not even an opt-out for it.

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Quoting: dpanterGoogle "game dev doors" and the internet will happily provide you with tons of articles about the soulcrushing endeavour of making doors. Enjoy a short and bittersweet blog post [External Link] from 2014 to get you started. :)

"The Other Door Problems" is great! :grin:

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Quoting: dpanterI pity any game developer who had to deal with doors... it ain't much, but it's hellish work.

Why is that?
My first thought was, hey, why there's doors mentioned up there, what's special about doors?!?
(I am software developer, if that helps with answering.)

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: EikeAccording to your logic - not mine.

Changing some sprites and backgrounds is very different from changing the genre or even the business model.

the question is: where you draw the line? what is acceptable for you might not be the same as what is acceptable for me, what define an piece of art for you might not be the same as what it define it for me.

an fighting game have tons of patches changing the balance (how much damage an attack does, how fast it is, the cool down,recover, range of the hitbox, timing) all of that can change, hell i played league of legends for a while they completely changed the gameplay of some characters!
an game can change a lot, and if its only there arent much we can do aobut it.

an video game is a lot of things, it is gameplay, sure, but its also soundtrack, graphics, every part of it matter.
one small change might not change an product but if we change a little bit for little bit in the end of the day we might end up with a completely different product, so again, where you draw the line?

To be honest... I don't know. Somewhere between changing sprites and changing genre or business model. ;)
(I personally usually don't run into such problems as I tend to play a game and then say goodbye for good.)

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: slaapliedjeAs far as hating on removal of racist imagery making you a racist? What if it is important to the story line that you are taking out a band of racists, but some sensitivity editor decides that shouldn't be in the game, and now you're just killing a bunch of random people? :P

a good example of that is the series "everybody hate criss" wich have a bunch of racist jokes that are intended to show how absurd racism is, it make fun, mock how ridiculuous racism is all the time, yet it feature racism to show that.
should it be censored too?

I didn't play Skullgirls, but my guess is that this game does not actually think about racism/nazism, but is just using it for, well... fun? In contrast, Svoboda 1945 [External Link] e.g. obviously needs nazis.

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: melkemindThe reality is that people who are actually upset enough about this to actually review bomb are likely white supremacists themselves, even if they're too cowardly to admit it.

Also, it's telling that they'd get upset over the removal of sexual exploitation of young characters. It's not like they removed all sexy outfits or anything, only predatory depictions of young characters. Why would that bother someone unless they get off on exploiting young girls?

Lastly, there really is no justification for hating the removal of racist imagery unless you're racist yourself. People these days are really good at telling on themselves.

I always got this little hope that some people will scream at anything taken away, because, you know, free speech/art (without realizing that these rights absolutely include the right of the developers to change their art). But, yes, probably it's culture wars again.

if you paid for a piece of art, you want that piece of art, not something else.
whats next? you will purchase halo and microsoft will give you forza instead but you cant complain?

the artist can do whatever he want with new pieces of art, its his art afterall, but for things you already purchased?
what if companies start makting their games pay to win? oh wait, they are already doing it, and we should acept because its their art according to your logic.

According to your logic - not mine.

Changing some sprites and backgrounds is very different from changing the genre or even the business model.

Quoting: elmapulwhat if an company decide to change an story you like into something else you dont, and you cant access the original anymore?
or an music? movie?

Well, the solution to this would be DRM free games, and you keeping the old one. Like with music or movies. I'm all for this.

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Quoting: melkemindThe reality is that people who are actually upset enough about this to actually review bomb are likely white supremacists themselves, even if they're too cowardly to admit it.

Also, it's telling that they'd get upset over the removal of sexual exploitation of young characters. It's not like they removed all sexy outfits or anything, only predatory depictions of young characters. Why would that bother someone unless they get off on exploiting young girls?

Lastly, there really is no justification for hating the removal of racist imagery unless you're racist yourself. People these days are really good at telling on themselves.

I always got this little hope that some people will scream at anything taken away, because, you know, free speech/art (without realizing that these rights absolutely include the right of the developers to change their art). But, yes, probably it's culture wars again.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: EikePS: I dig how different opinions have been exchanged in this thread without going for each others throat. :)

That's just because ChatGPT and Bard haven't joined the party! XD

What we really need is DeppGPT [External Link] (DouchebagGPT)!

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Quoting: GuestBut i still think that we, as Natural Intelligences, are much more well trained and will be so for long time, because we make far more experiences; our training set of big data are much more vast, our potential is still so much bigger.

Quoting: Purple Library GuySome day I'm sure they'll get it beat, but that will be a different generation of software based at least in part on different ideas. I think the same is going to be true of a lot of people's expectations for "AI" chat and so forth.

What I wonder, is it long time / generations in terms of wetware or software...?

PS: I dig how different opinions have been exchanged in this thread without going for each others throat. :)

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: PhiladelphusLooking at those numbers: bets on whether Linux exceeds MacOS in Steam share by the end of the year? :happy:

Wow, this is hefty! :shock:

Linux 1.44% -0.03%
OSX 1.79% -0.60%

So it's 2.39 => 1.79 in a single month, and this cannot be due to China, or Linux would have seen a similar drop!

Actually, I think it could be due to China.

I should have mentioned the China numbers in my post.
Chinese grew from 25.54% to 27.59%.
So there might be a little change in Mac explained by this, like 3% - but it's a staggering 25% less (1.79/2.39)!

I don't think even ARM can explain this, there couldn't be 1/4 of Mac users changing there hardware in a single month. So, I'd expect this to be something jumping back next month.

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