Quoting: Guest

Quoting: blindcoderI _want_ to pick one up, but it's _still_ a lot of money for a device I don't really _need_.

Yep, can relate. It isn't like I ever go outside, but it'd be fun to tinker with and waste time for that one occasion when going outside is mandatory. Wouldn't regret a free one :tongue:

It's also nice in bed!
You do go to bed, don't you? ;)

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Quoting: FSE

Quoting: EikeThey could Paint Yoda and Harry already.

Painting Yoda or Harry is IP infringement unless one can prove fair use.

You missunderstood what I tried to say: They can paint Yoda and Harry already, and thus infringe copyright, just like they can with AI. So I see nothing new with regards to Yoda and Harry.

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Quoting: FSE

Quoting: Eikeit's like trying to get rid of photos in the early stages of photography because they're "not art".

Art or not, if you published a photo consisting of a still from Star Wars or a page of a Harry Potter book, then you would likely be infringing IP.

Yes, but I find this unlikely what devs would do. They could Paint Yoda and Harry already.

What devs likely would - and will - do is e.g. generating backgrounds instead of painting them. I've already seen this in point and click announcements. Looks very nice on first sight, on second you see some stuff is wrong. If When AI learns, and doesn't paint some nonsense, well, that's easily done and looks nice. And shouldn't infringe anything.

And no, it's not what I want, I want to feel human's sweat on my monitor.

There will be games labeled "made without AI", and, as always, there will be miss-labeling.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: hardpenguinYes, this is good. Gotta get rid of the AI generated images (it is difficult to call it art).

It's obvious that this will not happen, right?

I do understand - and share - such feelings, but in the end, it's like trying to get rid of photos in the early stages of photography because they're "not art".

no sorry it's not like that... sometimes (not always tho) AI just takes some art and slightly morphs it.

Did you actually try image making AI? I gave it an attempt, and while of course I don't know all the art out there, I'm confident this wasn't just something slightly morphed.

*edit* I'm just too easy to distract sometimes. :D "They're not art" in my comment obviously points to "photos".

In the end, it doesn't matter if you consider AI work art or copying or something in between. Neither did it matter if you called photography a mere copy of a moment in reality eons ago. It's a way to produce something that's sometimes nice to look at and sometimes not (which is also true for photos and drawings), and which will be used.

What I would hope for is that people get to know if something is AI generated.

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Quoting: hardpenguinYes, this is good. Gotta get rid of the AI generated images (it is difficult to call it art).

It's obvious that this will not happen, right?

I do understand - and share - such feelings, but in the end, it's like trying to get rid of photos in the early stages of photography because they're "not art".

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Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: EikeBut I'm already a fan!?!

But do you make a high-pitched whining sound?

*lol *

My daughter (6 yo) is great at that!

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Quoting: NodThere are three common schools of thought:

Well, thanks for trying to be neutral, I guess. :D

... but I'd remove everything about "religous".

My stance for school 3: They just want to play games and don't care how they are running, but that they are running. They don't want to restrain themselves to some 10 to 20% of the Steam catalogue, mostly indies, that are running natively.

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Quoting: RavenWingsJust what my Steam Deck needs: Another fan :wink:

But I'm already a fan!?!

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Purple Library GuyGames that aren't open source are normal, and there are various reasons that isn't likely to change unless our whole economic system changes. Game engines that aren't open source . . . I kind of hope gradually become eclipsed by ones that are. But emulator things for making old games work that aren't open source are . . . problematic IMO. Especially when there's just one guy doing it. He loses interest or gets hit by a bus and then it just quietly rots because nobody can ever update it again, and so much for preserving the game. Not a basket I'd want to be putting my eggs in.

Amusingly, even if something is open source, if someone doesn't maintain the code, it'll stop working. Xkobo is an example, the C source is out there, but modern gcc doesn't like it too much. It's still built for NetBSD 9.0 though!

Yes, but if anybody is interested enough, they can take over.

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By the way, I saw a libSDL3 in my Steam directories lately. What is that about? Are they using an early development version?

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