Quoting: amonobeaxMolten provide a way to "translate" Vulkan code to Metal code.
Such things isn't possible the other way around, I wonder why....

Of course it's possible. It's just a wrapper after all. Might be harder the other way around though, who knows. And why would anyone bother?

Quoting: amonobeaxDon't you guys try to find a logical explanation for this move cause there isn't one (at least not a logical explanation that isn't shaddy AF).

Yeah, sure. Developers do this out of spite. Anyone who doesn't give us what we want must surely hate us. Whoa! My parents were never poor, they just never loved me! Sob...

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Quoting: zilot>metal

I thought this API was a joke. Why the hell someone would support Apple idiocy instead of forcing them to implement vulkan ?

Haha, seriously? Double Fine using Vulkan instead of Metal would force Apple to support Vulkan? :D

In case you weren't joking: Metal's not that bad as an API, even if it's completely unnecessary and everyone would be better off without it. And if there was any hope of Apple supporting Vulkan, MoltenVK would not be a thing.

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Quoting: echazarencIncredible, only 15fps in max settings and 30 fps in min settings with GTX1060 !!! unplayable

Must be the same driver bug that's making Feral's latest port crawl on Pascal GPU's.

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Guys, I agree that Vulkan/MoltenVK is the right way to go for maximum coverage, but MoltenVK in particular is barely out of the oven. I'd be surprised to see any commercial venture even touch it at this point unless they've already got their product running on Vulkan. And the Vulkan infrastructure (tooling, documentation etc.) has a long way to go to match the competition. We'll get there, quite soon I think, but we're not there yet. Of course there's also the fact that platform coverage isn't exactly the primary concern for many developers.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismCool I can't wait to get 1100 FPS :P

No, you want the original Doom at 2200 FPS. Or even better, Wolfenstein 3D at 3300 FPS. Anyone writing a Vulkan backend yet?

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Quoting: dmantioneIn this case the use of "PC" can be seen as correct: If Microsoft succeeds to close the software part of PC's, why keep the hardware open so people can escape to Linux? Microsoft ARM based hardware is already closed.

there's ARM hardware made by MS?

Lumia phones and Surface tablets? Something like that. They did acquire Nokia back in the day for their hardware expertise after all. Well, they did get the expertise, but lost or got rid of everything else. Including Nokia's market share.

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I need this. I wish I didn't need this but I do. Who knows, maybe I'll be a bit less broke when the game is ready and released.

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Quoting: MisterKI hope this isn't the same BS that Microsoft pulls with Steam on Linux. Leave the linux userbase with an older, less features, and barely functioning version of skype to deter people from switching platforms from windows.

Huh? What are they doing with Skype?

http://blogs.skype.com/2016/07/13/skype-for-linux-alpha-and-calling-on-chrome-and-chromebooks/ [External Link]

That comes at the cost of p2p calls though. Everything goes through their servers now. And that's awesome! I'm so happy to be finally routing my private video calls through a provider I fully and completely trust.

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Quoting: metro2033fanboyIf that ever happens, Ill go full PS4,PS5 and STEAM indies

goVEGAN

That's pretty much what I was thinking. If the day comes that I can't play any games on Linux but only on Windows, that's the day I cease playing games on PC and switch to PSx.

Hey, fellow penguin-fanciers, relax. I can appreciate a good Sci-Fi dystopia, but Microsoft will never rule the world. This is not in the realm of possibility. Unless absolutely everyone in power goes crazy and everyone else turns to sheep overnight, there's simply no conceivable way of stopping anyone from releasing their game for an open operating system like Linux. Just like there's no way of preventing hardware that enables this from being produced and sold.

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Quoting: lucifertdarkUEFI was the first step to making Windows the only operating system that works on a PC, killing steam & replacing it with Windows store would be a further step down that route, it may take a few years but it is going to happen.

UEFI has some technical merit as well, and if it was meant to stop competition, all it achieved was a slight speed bump and a lot of noise.

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