Well that was awfully nice of them to say. Go on Liam, give yourself a pat as well, preferably followed by a celebratory swig of rum. You (and your awesome contributors) really deserve to be proud at times like these. You might not have Valve's budget, but you really do an awful lot for Linux gaming.

Let's hope the game turns out as good as I hope it will.

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We'd still have 32-bit Linux without 32-bit install media for new Ubuntu releases. Even current LTS releases of Ubuntu will be supported for a few years, if other distros are not an option.

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I can see this being an enjoyable casual time-waster and stress-reliever, assuming decent gamepad controls. Although the main quest deadlines sound a bit forced. Might just as well vote for it, but won't buy until I see some positive reviews.

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Quoting: XaeroVincentMy guess is that the RX 480 will perform like a GTX 970 on Windows and a GTX 960 on Linux.

A ~200 USD AMD gpu on par with a similarly priced GTX 960 on Linux? That would mean they'd be pretty close in price/performance. A big Windows/Linux performance gap would be regrettable, but basically irrelevant.

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Quoting: liamdaweFor me though, if the developer doesn't give their game away for free and expects payment (like 99% of games) and you chuck a copy to a friend, you're doing something illegal (in most countries I think?) and unethical (because it shits on said developer).

I agree with you, and I don't take part in or advocate piracy. But that doesn't mean it's all black and white, and that all crime is equal. Most of us live in democratic countries though, and if and when we disagree with our laws, the right thing to do is to try to get them changed, not to break them. Activism is okay and even desirable, illegal or antisocial behaviour less so.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: wojtek88But if you have a car but do not have money for gasoline, do you steal it?

Blah blah, artificial scarcity etc. Stealing something tangible vs. making a copy. IOW: Don't be Lars Ulrich please. Metallica is was awesome but that guy's an idiot.

It may sound different, but in reality it isn't.

It sounds different because it is. ;) Theft and software piracy are not the same thing ethically, even if they are legally. The "you wouldn't steal a car" non-analogy really rubs me the wrong way, apples and oranges and all that.

But I know this isn't the right forum for this discussion. Linux gaming, woo! Emulators, yum!

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Quoting: wojtek88But if you have a car but do not have money for gasoline, do you steal it?

Blah blah, artificial scarcity etc. Stealing something tangible vs. making a copy. IOW: Don't be Lars Ulrich please. Metallica is was awesome but that guy's an idiot.

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Quoting: AnxiousInfusionIf GOL wants to be censorious of uncomfortable opinions that sends a stronger message about them than it does me.

No, it doesn't.

Quoting: AnxiousInfusionPiracy is only a satellite issue to my main point that platform exclusives have caused this rift in the first place. Whether or not something is legal does not correlate to it being right or wrong. I believe what I'm doing is a just response to industry's abuse of control.

That's neither here nor there. This is not the right venue for activism. We can (and in this case must) take our issues elsewhere. Liam has made his stance very clear.

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@AnxiousInfusion: The thing is, console exclusives are legal and piracy is not, so you might want to take another gander at the GOL rules before posting rants like that. Liam has made it clear that discussions on the ethics or any other aspect of piracy are not welcome.

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Quoting: Comandante oardoSaints Row IV [External Link]
Saints Row IV Game of the Century Upgrade Pack [External Link]

Weird that it's cheaper to buy these separately than it is to buy the SR IV GotC edition on it's own. I hadn't noticed. Thanks.

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