Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: SoulprayerMaybe you're using Steam in another way than me?
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/10544 [External Link]

I'm not experiencing any of that, myself. Mint Xfce, stable Steam client, Intel iGPU.

Is it an Nvidia issue? :dizzy:

Or it could be a distro issue, seeing as we're both running Mint and they're on a rolling release distribution. And I'm running the Steam Beta client if that makes any difference.

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Quoting: SoulprayerBut still, XFCE, i3wm and other similar tiling window managers are having massive problems with Steam at the moment.

I don't see any problems on Xfce.

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Quoting: TruckStopSantaClaus

Quoting: jo3fisWow keeps getting better and better. I have been trying to hold off buying it but it's getting more difficult.

totally should, You can even play it in ASC11

American Standard Code for 1nformation 1nterchange? :tongue:

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Quoting: fenglengshun

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: fenglengshunAs usual, Trails fans just show up in random places just to show that they're everywhere and they're dedicated despite 'niche' that game is.

Turn based JRPG is a niche? I thought it was still a decently popular genre with lots of fans.

Trails is relatively niche compared to Tales and even Atelier series, I'd say. It's getting more popular, especially thanks to Cold Steel being an easy entry point, but it doesn't change that it's a 10+ games of continuous story. The only other games I know that's similarly one long unbroken storyline are Ys (which is also the same company) and Rance series (which is even more niche outside of Japan).

Ah, you're talking about the popularity of this particular game series, not the whole genre.

It seems like at least both Trails in the Sky and Trails of Cold Steel (couldn't be bothered to check the rest) have sold about as many copies as the most popular Atelier games. So I guess by your definition, Atelier is just as "niche". The Tales series seems to appeal to a wider market.

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Quoting: fenglengshunAs usual, Trails fans just show up in random places just to show that they're everywhere and they're dedicated despite 'niche' that game is.

Turn based JRPG is a niche? I thought it was still a decently popular genre with lots of fans.

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Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: tuubiWell that's a stretch.

I don't understand what you mean.

Quoting: tuubiYou might as well compare piracy to car theft. We're talking about crime after all.

That doesn't help me in understanding. I'm really talking about license violations (e.g. using Linux without providing the source code).

I'm saying that downloading and privately playing (not sharing, not selling) a copy of a game from the internet is not the same as doing something completely different that breaks the terms of a license. It's a false equivalence.

Note that I'm not advocating piracy. I'm not partaking in it either. I was simply "thinking aloud" about the ethical implications. And I'm regretting it already. I haven't seen a fresh argument on the subject in years.

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Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: tuubiI don't see how. Downloading or sharing open source software doesn't violate its license.

We're talking about "piracy" (i.e. license violations), so obviously by using it in violation of the license.

Well that's a stretch. You might as well compare piracy to car theft. We're talking about crime after all.

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Quoting: poiuzWouldn't this argument legitimate all open source license violations?

I don't see how. Downloading or sharing open source software doesn't violate its license.

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Quoting: redneckdrowOutright piracy of a game still commercially available is theft, no matter how you slice it.

Legally it is, yeah. But ethically... maybe?

In case you download something you'd have bought otherwise, or sell copies of someone else's property, sure it's theft. However, if you weren't going to pay for it anyway, then what? How can it be theft if nobody loses anything? Or if it actually has the effect of increasing sales, as shown by the famous EU studies on the subject of piracy. But never mind, this topic has been discussed to death already.

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Quoting: melkemindBut at the end of the day, you can't look at corporations as people with good or evil motives because they have neither. The only motive is profit.

For the purpose of judging motivations, you should look at corporations as the people who own and lead them. They're the ones with agency. A corporation is just an abstract concept.

The fact that these people are more or less expected to seek profit without concern for ethics (at least as far as they can get away with) is irrelevant. If an action would be unethical for a person, it's unethical for a corporation.

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