Quoting: inckieThere is the "war" with Canonical and I simple don't understand why they spend time developing useless applications, like the Warpinator or their IPTV application which no one needs or asked for.

Really? I thought these were probably useful for some of their users. I mean I don't personally have a use for them and you don't have a use for them, but it's a bold claim that nobody asked for them.

And which "war" are you talking about? Not going with Snaps? Saying that they need to prepare for the possibility that Ubuntu might not always be available for them to base their distro on, after Canonical explicitly said so?

Quoting: inckieI think Linux desktop distros should focus the coming time on making Windows games run flawlessly and also continue to make improvement to the overall Linux desktop for enterprises (e.g. a little thing like the change Canonical did to the installer, so you can now domain join upon installation, means a whole lot regarding that).

Here are my wishes for Linux Mint:

1. Support the fantastic work regarding Wine.
2. A true real alternative to Microsoft Office.
3. Better interoperability with Windows environments.
4. Better Cinnamon development experience and documentation.

Ah. This was about what you want, not about what other Mint users want. I don't agree with your wishlist BTW, so I guess I now get to claim nobody asked for these things either. (I won't though, because that would be silly.) Also, I think you're either seriously overestimating the Mint team's resources or grievously underestimating the development effort needed to produce a world class office suite.

The last point might be valid. Can't really say as I've never even used Cinnamon.

In my opinion Mint is still doing what they were always doing and trying to provide a stable Linux distribution with a good out-of-the-box experience. Gaming might not be a big focus, but that's perfectly fine. They're not doing anything to hinder my gaming either.

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Lovely. I very much enjoyed Wasteland 2 and will definitely buy this at some point.

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Quoting: GuestI'll add one more use case for Gentoo - its a great distro for learning how all the components of a linux distro fit together. The install process walks you through manually partitioning and formating your disk, compiling your kernel, setting up your fstab, bootloader, networking etc. And that just gets you to a VT prompt on boot. Want a gui? Well, you'll go through all the different bits to make that happen - setting up your graphics drivers, X, a display manager, and whatever desktop shell you want to roll with.

Yes, its a ton of work, and it definitely isn't for everyone. But you'll have a vastly better understanding of what's going on under the hood so when you use a distro that does all this for you, you can be better prepared to solve problems that come up.

This is why I loved using it as my main distro for a few years somewhere back in the early 2000s. You know, when installing it was even less streamlined. :P

I mean compiling all that stuff with my Athlon Thunderbird 750 took ages, and I had to print out pages and pages of installation manual because I didn't have any other Internet capable devices, but it was all worth it. Portage was and is also a lovely package management system.

Then, when I found other things to occupy my time than tinkering with my system, I moved on to other distros. :)

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Quoting: slaapliedjeBehind every heartless corporation is of course the actual developers who are people who are generally very creative and are creating worlds for us to run around in and find bugs and complain about and mod and overall enjoy. Sure CDPR is a very wealthy corporation that is that way because of some very successful games. So yeah, the heart and soul of the coders is still there. The crunch time is because games that are this huge need deadlines or it would probably never be releases, and you know... people need to get paid.

Do you think the same of every corporation? How about Facebook developers? Or maybe EA and Ubisoft? Should we worry about their "heart and soul" when we complain about their business practices? After a point, there's a clear separation between employees and management, and my criticism was clearly aimed at the people making the business decisions.

I'm not sending hate mail to their technical support, you know, or claiming that their programmers and artists are to blame. I'm not that silly. I simply don't buy stuff I don't want to support. And I do avoid supporting companies who take advantage of their employees and/or customers.

Quoting: slaapliedjeLook at Croteam, you know there was someone there that had a love of Linux, so they started porting all of their games over to Linux. But then something happened to that employee, and now Serious Sam 4 was not released for Linux. That doesn't mean the programmers didn't necessarily want to not support Linux, they just decided based on time and being able to get it done or not. That still makes some of the more vocal Linux people get all pissed off and claim they'll never bother supporting them again, etc. This is the wrong way to do it. People just need to simply let them know that it's a shame that they're not releasing for Linux, and simply not buy the game. The messed up thing is there is no standard that people follow here, and simply buy Cyberpunk because it's THE game that everyone wants right now.

Yeah, I agree with all of this. Doesn't have much to do with what I said before, or with how a larger and more corporate game dev like CDPR works. Or at least it didn't. Don't know how Devolver's recent acquisition of Croteam changes things, but I doubt it's still nearly at the same level. Anyway, I'm not one of the people who gets pissy at developers when they don't support Linux, so you're barking up the wrong tree there. I bought and enjoyed Witcher 2 on Linux BTW, and I'd very much love to see Talos Principle 2 some day.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: slaapliedjePour your heart and soul into something and just have fans rip you a new one.

To be fair, this applies much better to tiny indie devs than big business like CDPR. Their billionaire CEO might get grilled by some investors for the bad press, but in the end they'll be all laughing all the way to the bank. If you've already made a nice profit from pre-orders after a successful hype campaign, who cares about some heckling from the peanut gallery.

Well, if you recall people were sending death threats to them for releasing a buggy Witcher 2 version for Linux!

Indie developers tend to have a much smaller audience and hopefully not as deeply disturbed gamers playing their stuff. The anticipation for games at this level is also much lower. Cyberpunk 2077 has had a HUGE amount of anticipation for it for years, and the delay triggered those same death threat level douche bags.

Hmm... Reading this, you'd almost expect that there's a correlation of some sort between the amount of marketing and hype and the amount of disappointed people if you don't manage to meet all the expectations this hype has created.

No but seriously, of course it's bad that there's an abundance of immature idiots who get all bent out of shape when things don't go their way, but that has little to do with legitimate complaints about a faulty product. You have to admit that at least some of the bad press CDPR are getting is justified. And I just have a hard time seeing how your "heart and soul" comment applies to a corporation known for their punishing crunch time practices.

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Quoting: slaapliedjePour your heart and soul into something and just have fans rip you a new one.

To be fair, this applies much better to tiny indie devs than big business like CDPR. Their billionaire CEO might get grilled by some investors for the bad press, but in the end they'll be all laughing all the way to the bank. If you've already made a nice profit from pre-orders after a successful hype campaign, who cares about some heckling from the peanut gallery.

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Quoting: TheRiddickGuessing this will be running at a beautiful 10fps on latest AMD cards, lol

Going to 0fps raytracing to 10fps raytracing it's a big improvement. Next generation graphics cards will do better.
When I was at univerity (about 10 years ago) I work on a university project to raytracing a scene, and I paint a 3d scene with a cluster of 3 computers (6 cores) and it took 10 minutes or more (if you wanted better graphics). Now this grapics card does in a second. It's a big improvmenet. I was sure that I wouldn't never see some kind of raytracing on realtime never.

That's fine, but the difference is that you were raytracing a whole scene. These extensions make it possible to add some fidelity and realism to lighting and reflections using specialized RT shaders, but that's about all we can expect at this point. We're still far from fully raytraced games, if that's even the goal.

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Quoting: gardotd426New hardware needs rolling releases to work, unless you want to compile from source, use custom kernels, are comfortable in TTY's, etc.

No. You just need drivers (kernel, possibly Mesa) that support your hardware. If you can easily get those from a PPA or other optional repository, why would you need a rolling distro? You might have plenty of other valid reasons to prefer Arch, but they aren't likely to enhance your gaming in any meaningful way.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThe only thing that makes me hesitate to recommend Mint for gaming is that my understanding is it tends to be a bit old and there are often reasons to want bleeding edge for gaming.

That problem is easily solved with a PPA or two, just like you'd do on Ubuntu.

Quoting: Purple Library Guy(Say, thinking of Mint and Snaps, I notice it's got a working Chromium again, where for a while it didn't exactly because Canonical was only packaging it as a Snap and Clem from Mint didn't want that. Anyone know what happened?)

Mint started maintaining their own Chromium packages to get around the issue.

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Quoting: WorMzyLTS, eh? It's off to a cracking start [External Link]. :P

In case anyone did already update, you probably want to downgrade or jump to 5.10.1 ASAP.

Only affects some raid setups and causes no permanent damage. No panic. :)

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