Quoting: WorMzy

Quoting: massatt212does it have a browser now?

What does it need a browser for?

The browser is used to show real-time content from a website. This includes things like someone subscribing, showing chat, etc.

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Quoting: MayeulC

Quotewe will also support the upcoming Steam Deck (Proton)

It really does sound like they will have a proprietary module on the steam deck with in-kernel anti-cheat, not sure we'll be able to use that on our computers?

I don't remember where I read this but Valve stated that this will all be available outside of Steam Deck

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Quoting: pete910Not interested in wine/proton support tbh, Would be more interested in more native games being shipped now that EAC/BE supports Linux. (I'm looking at the likes of you NWI)

Or is the support only through Wine ?

EAC and BattleEye have had native Linux support for a while. This was just to add support for them through Proton for Wine.

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Quoting: GuestThese regressions cannot happen when the Steam Deck ships and these fixes must NOT be needed. It will reflect badly on Proton, linux and ultimately kill the device

Don't worry, Windows users are already used to workarounds and games not working 😄

In my experience only tinkerers and retro gamers are used to stuff not working.

But even them are more used to the latest or more popular games working out of the box.

Go to any Steam forum or discord for a game and you'll see that this isn't true.

A hundred posts in a forum for a game that sold between 1 to 90 million copies isn't the compelling argument you think it is.

Most games don't sell millions of copies. Also, there are well known cases of games being terrible at launch and in some cases are never fully fixed.

Drivers, antivirus software, Windows updates, and poorly designed software issues happen a lot in Windows. Heck most of us are here because of these issues and Windows gamers have to do deal with those.

All I'm saying is that Windows gamers are used to dealing with issues with games not working and I think that it'll be less of an issue on Steam Deck and not something to worry about.

If the Steam Deck sells millions and most stay on SteamOS 3, developers are going to ensure their updates work on the Steam Deck. If it doesn't sell enough then it will not matter anyways.

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Quoting: Aeder

Quoting: KohlyKohl

Quoting: GuestThese regressions cannot happen when the Steam Deck ships and these fixes must NOT be needed. It will reflect badly on Proton, linux and ultimately kill the device

Don't worry, Windows users are already used to workarounds and games not working 😄

In my experience only tinkerers and retro gamers are used to stuff not working.

But even them are more used to the latest or more popular games working out of the box.

Go to any Steam forum or discord for a game and you'll see that this isn't true.

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Quoting: GuestThese regressions cannot happen when the Steam Deck ships and these fixes must NOT be needed. It will reflect badly on Proton, linux and ultimately kill the device

Don't worry, Windows users are already used to workarounds and games not working 😄

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Quoting: kalinI have been hate gnome forever but it works far better compared to kde in my experience.
With kde I always have crashes for random components all the time. When I get amd gpu (2023) I can try kde again
hopefully they learn how to write stable software till then

I can't remember the last time something in the KDE stack crashed on me. I even use NVidia and I still have no issues on several computers.

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Quoting: TcheyYep, have to wait before playing. Nothing seems up to date yet, snap, flat, app...
Manjaro is with 0.24. Some reps are even still with 0.23.

Also, big mistake in the trailer, Alpha 25 shows as XV instead of XXV in old rome numbers.
And we have a a good 10 seconds to notice it, hehe... Weird they didn’t see that, as it’s very obvious.

Getting an up to date version of this game has always been a struggle

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: CatKillerI expect those videos to end with "Windows on this device kinda sucks."

why ?

For one, because if you install Windows, and then install Steam's "new big picture == same interface as the Deck" on it, every time you start the device you'll still be booting into Windows and only then using your controller stuff (which Windows is not intended for) to start Steam. It'd be a pain.
Keeping SteamOS on, you boot and your games are right there.

There is already an option to start up Steam when you log in and also to start Steam in big picture mode (obviously will be changed to whatever the new mode is called). So all the user has to do is set those two settings the first time and then they are good to go after that.

Also, it has a touch screen and two touchpads so navigating a UI shouldn't be difficult.

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Quoting: Comandante Ñoñardo

Quoting: KohlyKohlGnome out of the box is ugly and to make it useful you have to add plugins to it. The default should be a useable desktop without the user having to do anything.

Imagine if a Windows user had to add a taskbar themselves...

Say what you want about KDE but out of the box it is useful and a user doesn't have to do anything to it.

Indeed it was necessary to add a start menu taskbar in Windows 8

Yeah and they added it back in soon after

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