Quoting: dibz

Quoting: WMan22I'm on Nvidia, so I basically have to use a rolling release distro if I want a good experience. Hence why I'm almost always using either CachyOS or Nobara Project. I'm sure Kubuntu is a great experience for AMD users though. Snaps are a problem though, Valve themselves say not to use the steam snap for example. [External Link]

Are you just using Wayland based distros or something? There is no reason to use a rolling release distro for a good nvidia experience. This belief is typically propagated by users of those distributions.

I know this is kind of a controversial thing to say but like, I have legitimate reasons to kinda need wayland, due to every one of my computer setups having mixed refresh rate multi monitor setups, something that X11 hates.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that Wayland needs a lot more work, it needs screen reader capabilities, it needs color management, it needs multi-window management for stuff like PCSX2, etc. but at its core, even with all the annoying missing stuff, the upside of having multiple monitor setups with different screen refresh rates that simply work with barely any issues negates the downsides of Wayland right now for me.

I play a lot of Warframe, and on X11, it spawns the game window in the middle of my main monitor and my portrait mode monitor no matter what desktop environment I am using, and dragging the window to my main monitor technically works but then the in game cursor can only access 40% of my screen before acting like it's hit my right primary monitor's screen bezel. Wayland does not have this issue. Gamescope fixes this issue in X11, but then I can't open the steam overlay which I make heavy use of for tracking my ducat farming in the notes function and chatting with friends.

tl;dr I understand where you are coming from, however, X11 is not suiting my needs at the moment.

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I'm on Nvidia, so I basically have to use a rolling release distro if I want a good experience. Hence why I'm almost always using either CachyOS or Nobara Project. I'm sure Kubuntu is a great experience for AMD users though. Snaps are a problem though, Valve themselves say not to use the steam snap for example. [External Link]

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I wonder if this will be enough to pull me away from the feature set Vesktop has. Like, even if they do this, I merely gain push to talk support in chat (I have already gotten used to setting the vocal capture threshold at specific places) but their app is less optimized and I lose plugin functionality like youtube embed fixes, translation, game activity toggle, OpenInApp, reverse image search, WhoReacted, etc.

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If this has gyro and 4 grip triggers, I'm gonna buy this so fast valve's accountants are gonna wonder how a money transfer exceeded the speed of light. I am incredibly glad they didn't listen to the people who wanted the touchpads gone.

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I have no personal need for this but I absolutely adore that it exists and can't praise it enough because it essentially fights e-waste and follows through on the premise of linux reviving old hardware beyond just making them web browsers, text doc editors, and media servers.

One thing I do wonder however is if this would have any performance gains with specific games even if you do have vulkan 1.3 compliant hardware.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: WMan22What do they mean by "Support for Display Mode Virtualization", is gamescope built into wine now or something?

It means if the game tries to set fullscreen resolution to something low, Wine will scale that to your display resolution. Except now it's not doing it neatly, placing the result not centered and leaving transparent band on the right if aspect ratio doesn't match. I filed a bug about it. Not sure what gamescope is doing, I'm not using it.

That's kind of disappointing as this kind of display issue is exactly the kind of thing gamescope exists as a band aid for. If it's doing that I see this breaking a few games. A good game to test is Star Wars: Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2, as that game on windows has a menu screen that will display in a tiny 640x480 window while the game itself will run at the proper resolution.

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Quoting: whizse

Quoting: WMan22What do they mean by "Support for Display Mode Virtualization", is gamescope built into wine now or something?

I think it's this merge:

"[I]mplementation of display setting virtualization using DPI scaling, ie: Proton fshack done right.

There's various things to tweak still, and this will stay as an experimental feature with X11 (Wayland actually needs it to implement display mode change so it's as experimental as the driver)"

https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests/6804 [External Link]

Dragging a window over another monitor with a different raw DPI is broken, and window dimensions may flicker/break, this will need the winex11 window configure refactoring (ie: !6731 (closed) and the other changes in !6569 (merged)) to be fixed.

I wonder if this will fix Warframe's weird cursor capture issues on KDE Plasma Wayland when you're running a portrait monitor as a secondary monitor and click away then back onto your primary non portrait monitor where you have to really struggle to get the game to capture the cursor again.

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What do they mean by "Support for Display Mode Virtualization", is gamescope built into wine now or something?

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If it's anything less than just the steam deck controls but in a controller format I'm probably not gonna care.

The trackpads, four grip triggers, dual analog, and 2 haptic touchpads are absolutely non negotiable to me and the thing that has made steam deck's competitors outside the legion go non starters for me since it doesn't matter how much more powerful something is if the controls suck.

I really wanna be able to make a steam input profile that requires no changes between docked and undocked steam deck play, as I currently see this somewhere in the top 5 only criticisms I have of the deck.

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This is cool, and I definitely agree with and heavily appreciate the mission statement of this, but I think they should have held off on this thing till they had like, a brand new announcement for games we didn't know were coming to the platform, or hell, even a chunk of brand new releases that show upfront an extra commitment to this.

Normally I would not ask for this kind of proof, but we just lost a few games like The Suffering and Spec Ops: The Line, and far before that, stuff like Riddick. While the automation of patches and fixes for modern systems is appreciated, this mission statement doesn't really mean as much as it should to me if the games they pledge to preserve can just arbitrarily get yanked from the store.

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