Very nice, I think I'll get it pretty soon on either Manjaro or Solus. Not interested in packaging it myself to test.

Congratulations on that milestone to the Mesa developers & people involved. Good to see how much positive "attention" by amd/intel/valve/game devs is on Mesa at the moment.

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Quoting: micha

Quoting: SirBubblesI'd like to chime in. After being burned by Kingdom Come: Deliverance and The Mandate, I'd be really hesitant about touching anything from Kickstarter. Getting a cheaper price isn't quite the same as buying a product you can have some certainty about. Delayed for years and not supporting the platform you use is not good enough. And here is another dev saying "can't be arsed supporting linux. Too hard".

Did you read the steam discussion? Their first post was:

Thank you!
Yes, Linux version will be available!

And yes I can absolutely understand that you focus on one platform if you want to push out updates on a daily frequency or similar during EA. Actually, I'd recommend not being bitchy to dev for that since the result will be less games on Linux.

Of if anyone promises and Linux release and but there won't be any at all it's a completely different story.

Knowing the route many games took (yes, there will be EA, yes there will be a 1-day release, yes we will publish linux builds later, yes it's still definitely coming, no it's not going to be released for Linux) I've had my hands enough burned not to kickstart anymore except for developers who have a linux track record. Why? They know what they'll face. Obviously, a lot of game developers underestimate the time to port, test and fix for other platforms. While I appreciate the effort, I did learn that I can not trust in what developers say at kickstarter, and because Linux is a low priority it is at high risk to be dropped.

I know that is a hen/egg issue there, without the funding they can not even try, but the rate of games which do not see a release in the end is getting higher and higher, and I'm not willing to accept this, since I'm personally on the good-will of the developers to return my money because they didn't publish on Linux. It's an investment, and in Linux a higher risk investment than on Windows.

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@Creak
You do not see a lot of performance improvement by current vulkan implementations because the engines are FAR from finished porting to Vulkan.

Just quoting the article about Croteam before:

IHVs engineers know very well that I've been crying for years (since multi-core CPUs started to become standard) to allow us to record GPU command buffers on separate thread. But that didn't happen in DX10, nor DX11, nor any of OpenGL iterations. So our engine was adapted to work with what we had. Now that DX12 and Vulkan came, it will take quite some rewrite to get it all turned upside down. Until that's done, Vulkan will be at disadvantage. But the very fact that it is close to DX11 in speed while it's working practically in emulation shows how much potential there is. This discrepancy is what you see in Doom and TTP vs RorTR.

They need to get this done, and it's a lot of work. That's why I always say be careful, we'll probably not see the first real DX12/Vulkan games before next year. They're using the technology, but by far not optimized.

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@silmeth croteam talked about exactltly this some time ago. And everyone who follows croteam and the approach they prefer (do-it-yourself-and-do-it-right) - I give my bet on that they've written their own optimizer by now.

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What really impresses me, they're basically having all their games on their newer engines. I know no company who ports their games from engine to engine but Croteam.

Either they've designed the engines extremely well from the start up to make it not too complicated, or they're really investing a lot of time even in their old titles.

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Uhh, AMD support again <3. I'm regretting less and less switching.

Though, still having issues due to my RX460 probably being a bit .. "too new" and a lot of distros don't support it properly due to old kernels etc. :D.

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Most important News:
Yes, there will be The Talos Principle VR!

Yey! That lovely piece could be great in VR.

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- Support for Vulkan API (DirectX9 is now being removed; so long and thanks for all the bugs)

:D .. a typical Croteam comment.

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Let applications enable/disable threaded gl in Mesa? It'd be as simple as it sounds.

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Yeah, means it will very likely run on my RX460.

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