Quoting: ElectricPrism2019, 06.28 -- Valve Index was released
2022, 02.25 -- Steam Deck was released
2023, 11.16 -- Steam Deck OLED was released

So we are about 2.5 years since Steam Deck's initial release.

Considering the R&D & time to market, I wouldn't really be surprised to see Steam Deck 2 in the next 12-18 months which would make the upgrade cycle interval about ~4 years.

I presume the Steam Deck hardware team (which previously achieved the Index, Steam Controller, and Steam Link) got pulled over to Deckard which would delay a Steam Deck 2 until after what I would imagine is either Valve Index 2 or Deckard Standalone VR. (Obviously the wuflu pandemic years messed up the timeline for R&D.)

I expect Steam Deck 2 to have a resolution of 16:10 1920x1200 (likely under this AMD Z2 chip), OLED, and largely be the same with better Wifi, Bluetooth, Increased Storage, Perhaps a 10-15% reduction in size or if they're feeling ballsie we'll see a flip up Nintendo DS style option (maybe from another manufacturer), but I largely expect it to look nearly exactly the same and function the same with better specs -- they may steal a page from Apple's book selling colored rectangles and make the personalization as simple as having different colored shells (Orange OLED shell is pretty sick, I'm looking at it right now) Translucent FTW.

What I'd love to see is a Steam laptop (the Steam Book?) using the same internal hardware as the SD but with a 15" WS display. I'm getting older. My eyes can't handle these tiny little screens.

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Quoting: CatKillerI don't think this'll be in the Deck 2. The Deck is still ramping up as a platform - Valve want to wait as long as possible before they disrupt that. This chip will be useful for the annual-release also-rans, though.

I agree. The longer Valve waits, the more established the Deck 1 user base becomes, and is an increasingly appealing platform for devs to make sure their game works great on it. Some games now have a Steam Deck preset when you tweak their performance (Like Cyberpunk 2077). You wouldn't have that kind of recognition if they changed the device performance often. The Nintendo Switch is ancient hardware, but there are so many in circulation that it's still getting games. I'm not suggesting Valve should wait as long as Nintendo did, just that there is value in sticking with aging hardware for a while.

For those of us that prefer to game on older, less powerful hardware, I have no problem with this. This may increase the likelihood that game developers will not leave support for older hardware behind, as they have done in the past.

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Quoting: KlaasI think it was too early to stop wine-ge in February. It does not look like umu will be ready in the near future (latest release is 0.1-RC4 released in April).

This is exactly the point I wanted to make. Thanks, Klaas.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI don't trust Acer. I recently bought an Acer laptop for some reason and was reminded of why I don't trust Acer.

A common opinion I've heard over the years. Certainly, my story doesn't actually refute your opinion either.

I have an Acer laptop that I purchased in 2010. It still works. However, since that original purchase, I have replaced the OEM AC adapter, the OEM battery and then, to my dismay, the hard drive in 2014. That also resulted in my switch to Linux Mint -- so I now see it as a good thing. Other than replacing the 3rd party AC adapter a couple years ago, the remainder of the laptop with all it's replaced parts has been reliable.

I found an excellent deal on a used Lenovo T520 a couple years ago (under $250 Cdn), so the Acer got relegated to a backup PC. Had to pull it out a year or so ago when the year-old WD platter drive in my T520 failed and needed replacing (ironically, the 10-year old WD platter drive in my Acer is still going strong).

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Noticed that there is no mention of the overheating issues that seem to plague modern Intel CPUs ...

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Quoting: TheRiddickMaybe this will lead to more applications that rely on NET to work. In particular all those mod managers that hate working under WINE.

Odd. I have no problems running Mod Organizer 2 with Fallout: New Vegas under Wine-GE. It's an older version, mind you. In fact, I have more problems running it under native Windows on the same laptop.

Come to think of it, does MO2 need .NET?

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Quoting: AdutchmanAppimage is a dead format.

Hardly.

Quoting: AdutchmanMaybe for emulators then

No not just for emulators. Many popular open source games and applications use the format.

Quoting: AdutchmanIt might also just be preference, since I really dislike managing Appimages and they are a pain to update.

I suspect that your opinion on the format's future is very much a bias based off your preference. I personally prefer an AppImage. They take less space and, IMO, are less of a pain in the butt to manage. I use AppImageLauncher [External Link] for that. Updating is a simple matter of removing the old and dropping in the new. And, updates happen when I want them to happen.

Depending on your install setup, AppImageLauncher can even automate the update process with certain AppImages.

AppImage installation is a quick process. You simply go into the Permissions tab under File Properties in your favorite file browser and mark the AppImage file as executable. Then you run it. AppImageLauncher detects the launch and integrates it into your GUI. No root permissions required.

Flatpaks, on the other hand, are a mess of permissions to get them to integrate with the rest of your system. (I know, they have a tool for that -- also on Flathub.). You can't control where they're placed so they end up choking up valuable space on your OS partition (I prefer to keep my games on a separate partition). They take loads of extra space compared to repository or AppImage installs. They install extra stuff without telling you when or why. Then there's the official vs unofficial bs -- most of the time, a flatpak is no more trustworthy than the claims made against AppImages. I could go on and on about my negative experiences with flatpaks ...

There is room in this world for multiple solutions to a problem. I am happy that we have all these choices available to us.

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Quoting: hardpenguin

This appears to happen across drivers 550, 555 and even the latest 560.

Yet again I am grateful for Debian Sid maintainers keeping me on the 535 line

Ditto for the Linux Mint maintainers. Also on the 535 line (at least, for LM 21 -- haven't upgraded to 22 yet).

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Quoting: MohandevirDo we know if Valve is working to bring something similar to lossless scaling to SteamOS? It seems it does "miracles" on Windows side, on ANY game.

Is it better than AMD FSR? I must admit that I can't compare, I don't have a Windows partition. :sick:

I could be wrong (no Steam Deck), but isn't that what Gamescope does?

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThe movie is not so much a portrayal of the book as a satire of it, poking fun at all the fascism.

Now that you mention it, that's how it feels to me too.

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