Quoting: GuestEven with a whitelisted game, you have no total guarantee. :D

Really curious to try these and see by myself... My setup is Ubuntu 18.04 + Nvidia 396.54. I respect Valve's minimum requirements. I'm waiting for a sale to test Doom, Nier:Automata and Star Wars: Battlefront 2. The only Whitelisted game I tested is Fallout Shelter and it runs great.

Edit: I would like to see a filter, in the google docs, to classify the tests per system configurations so that we may relate to similar configurations while trying to see if a game will work or not on our own systems.

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Quoting: hummer010But, is SteamPlay any better? Unless you're playing one of the whitelisted games, there's no guarantee of success either. So far, I've got 3 working games out 5 attempted with SteamPlay, and 2 of the three worked perfectly with Lutris too.

Didn't pretend that, but all I have to do is install, try and if it doesn't work just delete it all. I do not have to meddle with wine on my own, maybe making mistakes on the way, typing 60 characters long commands. It's much more "plug & play". And I'm not even talking about Steam integration and Steam controller support, that, as of now, works great. Also, I do not have to redo my Steam configs everytime I switch between the wine and the native version of steam.

Still... The Witcher 3 refused to install on Lutris... The script on PlayonLinux is way outdated (Wine 2.?? + no DXVK) and on SteamPlay it's plug & play. I don't know what else to say. That's my experience.

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Quoting: hummer010I don't think this was as far out of reach as you think. Lutris has already made great strides in being a game client that automated installs for WINE based games. Obviously, Lutris can't have as tight an experience as Steam can for Steam games, but it's still quite good. Lutris had already given me that same experience you've just had, where you start playing games you wanted to play, because it's suddenly easy to play them.

Don't get me wrong, I think SteamPlay + Proton is a complete game changer, but I agree with mirv, we'd have got pretty close to the same experience eventually without Valve.

Having never used the former, how does Lutris differ from PlayOnLinux? Although PoL was supposed to simplify Wine, relying on a small team to prepare and update packages for every program out there still meant that a lot of the time what you were looking for wasn't in the library of preconfs or didn't work anymore. Proton being run by Valve/on Steam has the advantage of more dedicated support and a much larger audience to report issues and suggest fixes; and already it seems to run a lot of games very well out of the box, instead of holding your hand while you jump through hoops but not actually removing the hoops (like PoL).

Quite my experience too. I've had no success with Lutris for the many games that I tried it (always stuck somewhere during installation and/or download times were aweful). It wasn't much better with PlayonLinux (LotRO kept on crashing even if it works ootb with a vanilla wine-stable). The best solution all-round was to tweak the wineprefix myself, but it's time consuming. Setting up 20+games without any guarantees of success is kind of unpleasant and I have much less time then I used to have for this kind of stuff. SteamPlay is a no-brainer compared to that.

That's just my personal experience, though.

Edit: Typo.

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Quoting: Guest

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Quoting: MohandevirThat kind of racer where no matter what you do, it's all decided in the last lap.

I actually hate the race mode exactly because of that, but king of the hill and especially survival are heaps of fun.

I tried the game, hated the race mode too. The thing is, as I haven't seen it in other comments I will explain it, that you can't get too far behind or ahead. The camera works in a way that every car has to be on screen at any given time. So if you get too far behind you are "pushed" (you can see that several times in Liam's video).

Maybe I should have tried the other modes, but I was annoyed to the point that I asked for a refund.

Of course you should try other modes, the one were a big paving roller is following the racers and killing anyone that is left behind. The mode that Liam played in the video is nice because you only get points for being the first, but the race mode it's ridiculous, people don't play that in online mode.

Bah! It just means that you are just too competitive for this game. Probably online, where all that counts is winning, it really matters, but personally, in a friendly local co-op game, I prefer when everyone has a chance at all moments. The game is fun for the trip, not only for the finality.

Just remember that you get awards even for majors fails like shooting yourself or going from first to last in the last turn. I don't think that this game is only about winning. :)

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That kind of racer where no matter what you do, it's all decided in the last lap. Awesome arcade racer! Still having loads of fun with it too!

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SteamPlay... SteamOS 3.0 in active development... I think I will wait for the second wave of Steam Machines (Ryzen + Vega based). :D

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Quoting: elmapulactually, that is bad news.
that means a lot of people will test a lot of games that dont run , without entering in the beta.
the ideal solution would be to either:

1)add an steamOS logo to the game
2)enable only games that were fully tested to run for those who arent on beta.

by adding it to the stable client, people have no way to tell if an game will run prior to install it and try it for then selves until the game crashes.
they may be informed that the compatibility layer isnt perfect and all, but they still dont have to tell if any Q/A was done to make sure the game run perfect, or it will have an issue in an random part of the game.

You still have to turn on the "Activate SteamPlay on all title" switch. The default behavior makes only the Whitelisted games available to all. This said, I would bring back the SteamPlay icon to identify the Whitelisted games.

Edit: In fact, it's quite the contrary... With the default behavior, you are on your own to find the Whitelisted games. You cannot install random games, it's locked. At this point, you are aware of what you are doing. And if you turn on SteamPlay on all titles, It must be assumed that you definitely know what you are doing. :)

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Hey! Happy GamingOnLinux day, Liam! :)

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Quoting: x_wingThis was fast. Nevertheless, they should start working on page similar to winedb. Right know I feel like the game test result/workarounds are quite dispersed on the web/forums. There is a lot of people testing lots of things but much of the knowledge gets lost in the immensity of the web :(

Found that link that I like very much (good search tool), through Forbes:

https://spcr.netlify.com/ [External Link]

Source:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/08/27/steam-for-linux-adds-1000-perfectly-playable-windows-games-in-under-a-week/#7a4a75ef55ae [External Link]

Edit: Sorry @legluondunet, seems that I stumbled upon the same link, by different means. Just saw your initial post in the other thread.

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Quoting: WorMzyI don't think having a steam-dedicated question is a good idea. Better merging it with the existing wine question, changing the wording so it's clear that steam-play and wine are, for the purpose of the survey, the same thing. That way, if (for example) gog start wrapping games in wine (do they do this already?), there won't be an argument for adding another "do you use..." question.

Basically, I think it's better to have one question regarding wine-based play, than potentially dozens.

Thing is, you might get an irrelevant sample if 90% of steam users use SteamPlay (which shouldn't be surprising though). It will send a completely wrong portrait of the wine (as in not SteamPlay) overall usage and make the question pointless. But who knows, maybe not.

Edit: Also, I think it might be insulting for those that work hard, trying to make a game work with Wine+DXVK and all that stuff, to be amalagamated with the lazy of us (I'm one of them) that use SteamPlay. :D

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