Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: MohandevirCould it be relevant to add something about Proton in the survey? Or is Wine considered the same? Just a question.

That's what we're asking:

We are looking to adjust the Wine question and add in a Steam Play/Proton question - opinions welcome on that.

;)

Oh! Sorry! My bad! Missed the last line! I was reading diagonnally. Doh! :D

Edit: My proposition:

Do you use:
[check box] Wine
[check box] SteamPlay
[check box] Both
[check box] None

This way, you will be able to compile the results of each answers. This said I like Ehvis' proposition about the usage frequency, but it might make things complicated with my proposition and I'm not the one who's programming the survey, so... :)

Edit 2: You might also decide that SteamPlay is a Steam feature that should not appear in the survey (just like BPM desktop doesn't appear in the DE question) and keep the Wine questions for Wine only. Still I would modify it with Ehvis' frequency proposition.

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Could it be relevant to add something about Proton in the survey? Or is Wine considered the same? Just a question.

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Quoting: m0nt3

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: m0nt3

Quoting: MblackwellWhy wouldn't it be Total War: Three Kingdoms?

Because it is not scheduled for release until sometime in Spring 2019 according to steam.

But with Proton, I would advertise my games as early as possible, if I were Feral... We are talking 8-10 months from now... It's not that far.

Edit: This said... Working with Fire and Steel from China Crisis is considered New wave / Post Punk music... Just saying... :)

I do not think, historically, games that appear under the soon section of the feral radar are 8-10 months out. Since F1 2018 is likely an easy port because of F1 2017 and it was on the radar before steam play was officially announced, therefore feral stuck with their radar plans. We shall see how feral handles things going forward, I do believe they need to be as transparent as possible in order to collect money from ports, instead of steam play. They have used wine as a reason for not porting older games before. We shall see. Also, feral has not put a game out on the radar that was not out for Windows. So F1 2018 and less likely shadow of war. That said, I really would prefer shadow of war.

In fact I personnally expect to see a port of Shadow of the Tomb Raider because of the previous two games that already got ported. A day-one linux release, like what happened with Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, would be awesome, but one may dream and I totally don't know how it could relate to the clues...

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Quoting: WendigoValve did a really clever move here to force game developers into cross platform development. Publishers will now have to make sure that their games run on all platforms Steam supports, no matter if they intend it to run there or not since the games were made available everywhere. Even though players get a notice when starting a game via proton I guess quite a few will still down vote a game that doesn't run on Linux or OSX, so the Publishers have 3 choices:

1) Do nothing and get a bad rating that affects their future sales of the game.
2) Make sure their game runs with Proton on all operating systems that Steam supports and hope that a future change in Proton doesn't break the game.
3) Do a proper cross platform port or develop future games with cross platform in mind and have control over the game's performance on Linux and OSX.

I guess the third option is the best choice.

If you think this is going to force publishers to support Linux, you are delusional. If you start leaving shitty reviews because stuff doesnt run well on Proton... the end result will be publishers will loudly complain to Valve about it, and force them to blacklist their game from Proton.

... And potentially make Valve wihtdraw SteamPlay completely.

Personnally I would just ban those that leave bad evaluations because of Proton.. Ok, might give a warning or two, but if it becomes viral... I may be a little too extreme... Still, Valve made it crystal clear that SteamPlay is on them, not on the devs.

Edit: And if someone leaves a bad review on a title because he decided to turn on SteamPlay on all titles... What is he thinking about?! He deserves to be banned!

This said, what I hope for is that it will convince the devs that are on the fence about supporting Linux to do it, because of Proton. But you cannot force it. That would be doing like Microsoft often does and shoot yourself in the foot... And since Steam is not a monopoly like Windows is...

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Maybe someone can make something out of this?

Doing a search about 8 pointed stars, I stumbled upon Octogram (obviously) and some interresting informations about a Latvian god named Auseklis...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auseklis [External Link]

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Quoting: m0nt3

Quoting: MblackwellWhy wouldn't it be Total War: Three Kingdoms?

Because it is not scheduled for release until sometime in Spring 2019 according to steam.

But with Proton, I would advertise my games as early as possible, if I were Feral... We are talking 8-10 months from now... It's not that far.

Edit: This said... Working with Fire and Steel from China Crisis is considered New wave / Post Punk music... Just saying... :)

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Quoting: KelsMy first impression from the video is that this is basically Torchlight II with more "realistic" graphics.

Sweet! If that's true, that could be my kind of game. Is it controller friendly? Let's say like Victor Vran? I prefer WASD or controller stick movements to point & click with mouse.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: tonR

Quoting: tonRTotally Linux newbie questions... Should I try it?

Very tempting to play The Sims 3....

Well, currently downloading The Sims 3. I will test it on Saturday evening or Sunday, depends on my laziness...

You could have checked the compatibility spreadsheet [External Link] to avoid wasting your time and bandwidth. (Three reports that it does not work.)

Aaaah! EA games... #Facepalm ;)

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Zappor

Quoting: riusma"Working with fire and steel" is a song from China Crisis... there is always a song in the clue! :whistle:

China you say? Guess it's Total War: THREE KINGDOMS then.

Would be nice to see the series continued on Linux, however I personally would prefer something different.

Not going to blame Feral about the situation, I highly respect all the work they have done from day one, but it feels like it's hard to get ports outside of these 2 or 3 franchises for which they have developped all the tools for a smooth porting process. I guess the AAA studios they used to make deals with are harder to convince compared to what it was back in 2014-2015... We all know why.

Edit: Weird formulation.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleWith people now being able to buy and play (many) Windows games on Steam so easily, these teasers are not going to do Feral any favours.

Feral - just say what the port is so people know whether to wait.

Many of us make a point of buying in such a way that the porter is guaranteed to get something out of it. If we buy a non-native game now, sure it gets flagged as a Linux sale to the publisher, but when a native port comes out later, Feral get nothing out of it.

Maybe that's why they say "We'll fix that rusty old thing on Tuesday." The guessing game in itself is funny but might be damaging if it lasts too long...

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