HDR streaming theough Sunshine broke for me and this has been the case for a while. Never bothered to try and fix. Maybe I should look into it today.

Thanks for bringing the news of this big update to my attention.

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Is this Linux only, what about Windows ?

Found out it's both.

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I don't like the gaslighting nature of the last point the dev made here. While the proposal post was indeed flooded with dozens of people concerned their games won't work, there were at least a couple Fedora packagers conversing in a passive aggresive manner you'd expect out of smug and snarky open-source devs who probably think they're better than everyone, it got to the point where one was more-or-less making fun of Bazzite's devs inability to handle the 32bits themselves.

No reason to mention names because that's not the point. Pretty crappy to see all around. At least this attitide was only expressed by a couple Fedora people and not a majority, so we're good for niw. Like I said in the previous posts about this matter, the worst thing wasn't the proposal, it's the attitude behind it.

Lastly,as brought up by a user in the proposal:

I see that at least 2 of 3 owners of this proposal are employed by Red Hat. Considering that RHEL dropped support for 32-bit libraries, the desire to remove these from Fedora as well is not surprising from the prespective of cutting maintenance costs (hardware + human-hours). However, this change proposal appears to not consider other perspectives and it makes me doubt my understanding of Fedora’s role in the grand scheme of things.

These points of friction with Red Hat for Fedora will only intensify with proposals (driven especially with an attitude) such as this one. The Fedora people are not helping themselves stopping these points from being brought up.

These were just a couple points I learned from this change proposal story.

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So it's not a hardware lock ? I wonder how until someone figures out the mechanism theyre using to check for the OS so we can all maybe go around it and pretend we're all SteamOS :whistle: .

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Didn't think this would be nearly as bad as I thought yesterday. Especially some of the - sorry for saying - pretentious comments as the ones quoted by the users above, really give a bad tatse and make even myself start the idea of looking elsewhere with such attitude, that seed is planted now, Fedora.

Seriously, nothing I dislike more than people making potentially catastrophic decisions, while also being so smug about it. Like, the problem for me isn't the proposal itself, rather the attitude driving it.

For Bazzite, unrelated but this just made me truly realise and actually accept the Bazzite devs when they said 'we're not a distro', clearly, if such a change, even as significant as this, jeprodizes the whole project, because they can't handle it. This is just an observation, not an attack or anything, I was always like 'come on guys, Bazzite IS a distro'.

This brings me to another point I want to share, and I really like this about open source software, it's that because everything is out in the open, and there's really no heirachy or any official job roles, what I really like is how everyone's voice does matter, and the open source devs are put at the highest levels of scrutiny that I've seen; one small mistake (like this proposal being effortlessly reverted and pretwnd like nothing happened) and you risk your whole reputation goodbye. This is great, it (hopefully) ensures ill-intentioned individuals to burn down when they try something stupid.

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Also hang on, isn't Steam's RPM provided by RPMFusion ? I imagine those guys can just ignore this decision and carry on bundling whatever is necessary to keep Steam running and call it a day, right ?

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We all pretend like this is a catastrophe and Flatpak Steam doesn't exist :whistle:.

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My favourite NES game is Mega Man 2:grin:.

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It would have been a nicer solution to get mangohud working on Windows & Mac rather than having to reinvent the wheel. Mangohud/mangoapp has worked so well on the Deck. I guess they hit some kind of roadblock for that approach.

And that's what I meant. Also, they clearly hit a roadblock on their ground-up solution on Linux as well, so it's not really a good excuse to make a new one either.

I just get confused with the NIH mentality, when you'd think Valve would take in community effort like they have been before, instead of reinventing the wheel.

Lastly, since they want a solution that works across platforms, are they going to ditch mangohud and replace it with their new solution ? Wouldn't make sense to have then both together right ? More unnecessary confusion in the Linux world..

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MangoHud is only supported on Linux.

That's what I meant. For Linux, use MangoHud. For Windows, whatever theyre developing right now.

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