So it's not a hardware lock ? I wonder how until someone figures out the mechanism theyre using to check for the OS so we can all maybe go around it and pretend we're all SteamOS :whistle: .

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Didn't think this would be nearly as bad as I thought yesterday. Especially some of the - sorry for saying - pretentious comments as the ones quoted by the users above, really give a bad tatse and make even myself start the idea of looking elsewhere with such attitude, that seed is planted now, Fedora.

Seriously, nothing I dislike more than people making potentially catastrophic decisions, while also being so smug about it. Like, the problem for me isn't the proposal itself, rather the attitude driving it.

For Bazzite, unrelated but this just made me truly realise and actually accept the Bazzite devs when they said 'we're not a distro', clearly, if such a change, even as significant as this, jeprodizes the whole project, because they can't handle it. This is just an observation, not an attack or anything, I was always like 'come on guys, Bazzite IS a distro'.

This brings me to another point I want to share, and I really like this about open source software, it's that because everything is out in the open, and there's really no heirachy or any official job roles, what I really like is how everyone's voice does matter, and the open source devs are put at the highest levels of scrutiny that I've seen; one small mistake (like this proposal being effortlessly reverted and pretwnd like nothing happened) and you risk your whole reputation goodbye. This is great, it (hopefully) ensures ill-intentioned individuals to burn down when they try something stupid.

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Also hang on, isn't Steam's RPM provided by RPMFusion ? I imagine those guys can just ignore this decision and carry on bundling whatever is necessary to keep Steam running and call it a day, right ?

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We all pretend like this is a catastrophe and Flatpak Steam doesn't exist :whistle:.

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My favourite NES game is Mega Man 2:grin:.

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It would have been a nicer solution to get mangohud working on Windows & Mac rather than having to reinvent the wheel. Mangohud/mangoapp has worked so well on the Deck. I guess they hit some kind of roadblock for that approach.

And that's what I meant. Also, they clearly hit a roadblock on their ground-up solution on Linux as well, so it's not really a good excuse to make a new one either.

I just get confused with the NIH mentality, when you'd think Valve would take in community effort like they have been before, instead of reinventing the wheel.

Lastly, since they want a solution that works across platforms, are they going to ditch mangohud and replace it with their new solution ? Wouldn't make sense to have then both together right ? More unnecessary confusion in the Linux world..

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MangoHud is only supported on Linux.

That's what I meant. For Linux, use MangoHud. For Windows, whatever theyre developing right now.

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Why not just plug the whole of MangoHud into Steam for Linux and call it a day ?

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I hope Stellar Blade makes them come to their senses in other areas as well :wink:

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I think the problem with Microsoft entering the ring is that you know for a fact they won't play nice at all, and they will resort to more monopolizing practices which they have the power to, if they must.

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