Quoting: slaapliedjeI agree, I'm quite shocked that Valve hasn't tried to work with the few brick and mortar stores around, like Walmart. Though I guess some of them have questionable pay rates for their customers. Hell, even selling through Amazon would maybe lighten any load of shipping it out themselves. But the Best Buys, Game Stops, etc would be a good place to see them.

Kind of sad that so much of the shopping experience is going away. There definitely are things where it sucks to buy them online, like clothes, for example.

I myself am still definitely a fan of brick and mortar stores . . . and I don't even like shopping. Certainly I think it's usually a bad idea to buy clothes or above all shoes over the internet . . . but my main things to buy are books, and I definitely hit the actual bookstore for them whenever at all possible. Especially my favourite bookstore, the fantasy and science fiction specialty bookstore White Dwarf Books, which has the serious advantage that when I'm looking at a new release I can say "Jill, is this one any good?" and the proprietor will say "I haven't read that one but people have been saying X and Y about it."

As to selling through Amazon, I hear that is not nearly as compelling as it used to be if you have any alternative. Amazon have been jacking up their rates for third party sellers, charging for good search placement and generally nickel and diming them to death, and simultaneously they have provisions in their contracts (somewhat like Steam's own provisions on this topic) prohibiting selling the thing cheaper anywhere else. They have sellers over a barrel and they are increasingly exploiting it in what Cory Doctorow calls "enshittification". Valve are probably wise to instead rely on their own sales channel that they control.

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Valve should really figure some way of getting it to happen in China.

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Quoting: ObsidianBlkNot to rain on the Ally's parade at all! I love that there's competition in the mobile console space

I'm perfectly happy to rain on the Ally's parade unless and until they sell it with Linux instead of Windows. :grin:

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Somewhere in the middle of the trailer thing there was a mention of winning a Norwegian game prize, and I thought "Norwegian . . . that explains something about the feel of it, it somehow does feel kind of charmingly Norwegian."

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Quoting: sonic2kkIt seems I was wrong either way, but they're not easy tools to get mixed up.

Really easy to get mixed up, they're both "Game + (syllable with an 'o', ending in 'e')". :smile:

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Quoting: whizseYeah yeah lightning... What about their willy physics!?

I'm not even interested in a game without willy physics!

(This is sort of an inside joke. Back in the day, at the beginning of the 3d acceleration age, I had gotten a Voodoo 1 card (Pure3d, had 6mb of ram instead of the typical 4, because I knew how to research hardware!). Friend of mine made a comment of 'I don't care about the graphics, as long as the game is fun.' Then I showed him how Unreal looked on 3Dfx. It was mind blowing back then. He changed his tune after that and said that he wouldn't play a game unless it looked amazing... strange dude.)

Sounds like your friend was ahead of the curve!

Oh man, the 6mb card. All I had was the 4mb. Now I'm gonna question all my life choices...

Haha, it was much like anything, though. If everyone didn't have 6mb of ram, then developers only developed for 4mb of ram... One of the reasons so many games on the Atari ST stunk... devs would code for 512kb, so that all of those Atari 520ST owners wouldn't cry foul!

I remember playing these text adventure games that were written to fit very exactly into 16k of ram.

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Quoting: tohurLMAO you missed that date by like 20 years bruh.. X11.. aka Xorg was released in the 80s..

I believe he's referring to when X.org as such was formed, as in this Wikipedia quote:

The modern X.Org Foundation came into being in 2004 when the body that oversaw X standards and published the official reference implementation joined forces with former XFree86 developers.

You are too quick to assume people are clueless.

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Whoa! Nine verbs!!!

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Looking at the trailer . . . so what's with the guy in his dotage talking at you incoherently?

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Quoting: reaperx7I love how Red Hat loves to push (force) people to buggy and incomplete software touting it as "stable" when the truth is far from reality.

Wayland is nice, but the fact that every compositor does everything inconsistent with each other, and often conflicts with how Xorg/XWayland does things, with pretty much everything the original developers intend, pretty much leave me saying "this isn't a good idea".

Honestly, nothing was wrong with Xorg, in my opinion. It works as intended like Windows GDI+. Yes there were some security flaws, but really, what was wrong with Xorg? I honestly see Wayland as a solution in search of a problem, not the other way around. If there was consistency with the compositors this wouldn't be a problem, but Plasma has their own problems, Gnome wants to be the rebellious child, Enlightenment is their own thing, Weston is sitting in the corner rocking back and forth thinking its a tea pot, and God knows what else the rest are doing running around the house aimlessly, but nothing is consistent while Xorg is sitting at the table, well behaved and saying "Oh so I'm not that important anymore? Have fun with the miscreants!" as it sits it's tea and reads the newspaper.

If you think Xorg is well "behaved" and not an issue you do not live in reality.. xorg is a utter mess and needs to go. frankly since swapping to Plasma wayland my PC performs much better

In my mind, the only thing Xorg needed fixing on was a better / more supported way to not run as root. Outside of that, they did all the work to make it modular during the development from XFree86. The problem is that people don't like maintaining old stuff, and want to play with new toys. That's all Wayland is. It'll be a new toy, until it isn't, then someone else will declare that it's crap and no one should be using it and then we'll be in the exact same boat as before...

There are definitely things that Wayland does okay, but nothing they do that is special over X11, and end up still needing compatibility layer to X11...

Performance wise, I notice very little difference between Xorg / Wayland. Like somethings feel a little smoother, other things feel slower. I definitely notice things just not working right in Wayland though. Weirdly, I had an issue where the Synology Drive app didn't want to work in Xorg, but would in Wayland... after a reboot, it was fine though.

Bruh xorg is gone man... fact is if you look into things alot of the Xorg devs left to wayland.. they did so when drafting up X12 which eventually became wayland. Xorg is old bloated and outdated af, code over 30+ years old, bugs that date back to the 80s that have NEVER seen fixes and will never see fixes. And if you have actually used a functioning wayland session I highly doubt you didn't see any performance differences. But seeing you use Debian might explain your remarks here because in a up to date system wayland blows xorg out the water. Also considering you use GNOME explains alot as wayland on GNOME sucks because GNOME being GNOME trys to do their own thing and frankly is terrible. IMO Plasma Wayland is the best implementation of wayland and truly shows where wayland is going and why its just simply better then xorg in every way.

Also I am of the mind set that every so often we need to create new display servers to get rid of all the crud and bloat because eventually wayland will see the same fate as xorg

I'm running Sid. I switch between Xorg and Wayland often, as some software is not working right under Wayland. And literally do not see any real performance differences (Granted, I'm also running a 7800 XT, Ryzen 9 5900X and 32gb of ram. Not the latest, by any means, but not a slouch enough to notice a few bits of slowdown anywhere in Gnome or KDE (I also like to switch between those for different reasons).)

It's funny that you say that Plasma Wayland is the best, considering they were so far behind Gnome / GTK on implementing them.

It could very much be one of those psychological things. Where someone says there is a speed difference and so you notice one, "Sure, I see it!" Kind of like seeing Jesus in a piece of bread? :P

But yes, if you knew how XFree86 evolved into Xorg, and the reasons why... Wayland sounds like they were just lazy and decided to dump Xorg for a newfangled thing. Xorg, at one point, was the 'New awesome and will fix all the problems because it's modular!'

Honestly, I think it's because a lot of people have died and a lot of new people have started using Linux and have been over promised for all these things... Until Wayland can get the damn clipboard to behave like X11, I won't be able to use it full time...

Edit: Just in case you also think "well Debian Sid is still ancient!" I also have Arch on the same system...

Running Sid? In my experience things break quite often in Sid and should NOT be what you are basing your opinions on because running a Unstable distro your literally asking for things NOT to work .. my suggestion if you want a rolling release pick an actual Rolling distro like Arch, Opensuse and many others that actually release packages with a bit more stability LMAO.. Honestly can't beleive I wasted time and my breath and here you are LITERALLY running an UNSTABLE distro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Getting a bit rude there IMO.

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