Quoting: einherjar

Quoting: KimyrielleNot sure why they thought it would be a good idea to make developers perform a "few clicks" to enable other platform support. Developers quite frankly shouldn't have a say about what platforms people run their software on. Just enable it for all EAC games, with no way to turn it off. :S

Hm, freedom of choice - but not for game devs?
No one should be forced to support Linux IMHO.

i think if an software took away control form the developers of where their software/game is shipped, this software would be dumped by many big companies, because its damage their capabilitie of charging for platforms like stadia to support their platforms.
unless you are big like valve and essential to their business that move could make game developers dump you.

as for counting it as freedom? i'm not sure if it counts.

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Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: dubigrasuSo, Fortnite?

Yeah... For that to happen, Epic will have to make the few clicks... It's not a given! :tongue:

:grin:

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i was trying to figure out what anti cheat solution an specific game uses and found this usefull site:

https://levvvel.com/games-with-kernel-level-anti-cheat-software/ [External Link]

here is the ammount of games per anti cheat software (according to this site wich probably is incomplete)

easy anti cheat 140 games

battle eye 42 games (valve is working on it)
esea (1 game, from valve)
faceit (1 game, from valve)

still missing
equ8 (5 games)
mhyprot2 (2 games)
nprotect gameguard 15 games
punk buster 52 games
ten project (1 games)
vanguard (1 games)
xigncode3 (6 games)

speaking of non steam games, all EA/dice games seem to be using punk buster, as for ubisoft, they seem to be spread among many solutions

[update]
i said all EA/dice games were using punk buster, but thats only true EA developed games, not EA published games.
some EA published games were made using easy anti cheat, i'm not sure if most of then are still active.

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hell i hope that means i will be able to use something like jack-rack without messing the audio of everything else

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Quoting: const

Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: FrawoWell, Valve already made a Linux console and CDPR did nothing.

They did something. They hired VP to do their TW2 port and they probably intended to let them continue with TW3. But since the Steam Machines went nowhere, so did their efforts.

Definitely interesting to know whether they would come back and do it for real if the Steam Deck takes off. Even a Vulkan engine in the game would be a big step.

The shitstorm for the initially really bad port was probably enough to make them stay away. TW3 was never announced by CDPR.

dude there was literally an big banner saying witcher 3 was coming to steamOS

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Quoting: Lachu„we saw the Phil Spencer of Xbox had access too and commented on Halo, Age of Empires and xCloud working nicely.”

Mueeehhhhh ... !
So MS test these games on modified Arch Linux?

asking the real question

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Quoting: whizse

Quoting: elmapul"- Add ARM support"
wth '-', serious? there is any wine-arm?

Wine is ported to Android [External Link] and does (supposedly, I never tried it) run some WinRT applications on ARM.

applications is a thing that dont require an low input lag to work...
i wonder how well it can play games

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Quoting: BielFPsThis is one of the reasons I think Steam Deck might ship with Valve's custom kernel, with Futex2 and probably some other out of tree patches.

probably with some form of drm to convince netflix and others to support it (netflix already works on linux at 720p, but im not sure about disney+ and others)

and the deal they have with anti cheat solutions may include some kernel level features.

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"- Add ARM support"
wth '-', serious? there is any wine-arm?

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Quoting: DerpFoxExclusives are always bad.

We can't make a fuss about interoperability. And things not coming to Linux all the time. And as the same time cheer up when some important project like this one is exclusive to Linux because the devs "don't care". It's the exact same attitude a lot of Windows game-dev are giving us. I truly believe we are better than that.

there is no such a thing as an world without exclusives, there is either what we have on consoles that a few games are exclusive to playstation, others to nintendo, others to xbox and everything else is multiplatform...
or what we have on pc where allmost everything is exclusive to windows due to it higher marketshare.
the only way to break this is increassing linux marketshare, we tried to do that without making exclusives and failed, keeping trying an strategy that dont work seems madness to me.
honestly i hope that i'm wrong and that steam deck can break the curse, but until that happens, i'm tired of waiting 10 years to maybe be able to run an game, or maybe having to wait even more, i'm tired of searching the depts of the web to try to make an obscure game works, not finding anything and trying anyway without even knowing if its at least possible to make the game run or if im wasting my time and should wait for wine to improve.
and im tired of waiting for the bug A to be fixed and when its finally fixed on wine and i can play the game flawless, i found out that an new bug B has appeared.

people will complain that something is exclusive to an platform only when they dont use/have this platform, other than that they are fine with exclusives, just pretend they arent.
if gamers were serious about that they wouldnt use windows to begin with.

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