Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: elmapulAnyone trust valve to make an game console again after the steam machines flop?

Can not be compared.
The Steam Machine(s) were a train wreck of a launch partly due to it being announced way, waaaay too early (Valve may not have expected the instant response by the hardware manufacturers), but primarily because Valve did not make this game console. They just provided the (premature) OS. It was up to whoever out there to make whatever PC-in-a-console-hood they wanted to and put SteamOS on it. No directions, no restrictions, no plan whatsoever.

That was a horrible idea. Horrible!

So while I do share your pessimism it's for entirely different reasons.

even worse, they cant control what happens with their own brand

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i heard about it this week and now its here, quite an small world

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"Send loads out to developers long before release. Gosh I hope they're doing this. How do you get people interested in supporting it? Give them developer kits. Other console makers do this for good reason."
actually the reason why developers support stuff is because they are paid upfront to do it, so they make profits before they sell an single copy of their games, and even more if they do sell (they might even put aditional money intro improving the performance post launch if it sell enough copies)

"Some form of external streaming media support out of the box. Yes, I know, that the main point is gaming but we're long past the point of such single-use devices"
did switch support anything else?

"Over to you in the comments: what do you want from it?"
an good batery life, despite the fact it will be x86.

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wait, we have an game were you can do dog fights and i dont know about it? shut up and take my money, i cant wait to put an mod to replace the air planes with dragons so i can do dogfight with dragons!

oh shit, my computer probably cant run anyway and looking at the gameplay it seems slow...

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Quoting: ElectricPrism

Quoting: elmapulworse than that, some people are already installing windows on it to get acess to more games. if most people do that, then supporting it will be useless to increase our marketshare

We've come full circle guys. Imagine, people who want to use Windows have to start from a device shipped with Linux XD. So funny.

I've been on the fence about this device for a while and set low-expectations imagining it would never come to fruition. But seeing as how they will be launching with some retailers like BestBuy, GameStop, etc... that's off to a good start. I guess I'll see you all in about 2 weeks to see what the verdict is from the Linux Sphere.

what i'm talking about have precedent.
the government of my country did an tax reduction to computers shiped with linux, what did happen? the marketshare grow? nope, people instaled an pirated version of windows.

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actually the game selection that they showed on the trailer looks solid, i dont know any of those games but they look like polished indie games

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Quoting: dubigrasuI don't have the hardware itself, but I do have the OS (it was uploaded by some Youtuber > and promptly taken down afterwards) and I must say that is pretty neat.
It recognized most of my controller and got into some games right away. It has that retro feel look and sound overall and I can see why nostalgic gamers might love it.

What it needs is more games and a bigger user-base, hopefully the the actual launch will help. It would be sad to see it transform into another Ouya.

worse than that, some people are already installing windows on it to get acess to more games.
if most people do that, then supporting it will be useless to increase our marketshare

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i wish we could transfer the sucess of an open source project to another...
i mean, microsoft made a lot of money selling visual basic and used that money to fund the development of office and windows, then they made a shit ton of money with office and windows and used it to fund internet explorer (that dominated the market a long time ago beofre they shifted their resources to something else),
directx, xbox, azure, windows media player (wich kinda died due to countless reasons), msn, windows live mensenger etc...

now imagine if blender could do something like that and help other projects...
actually they can, and some times open source companies do it, mozilla for instance helped godot and others, the main issue is that doing so dont direct benefit then and they dont have as many sources as an big company do (mozilla helping godot to export for web helps mozilla to turn the web into an platform but not so much as directx helped microsoft keep their dominance, on an side note at least they cant leave it without resources as microsoft did with internet explorer once they thought it was not nescessary to invest money into it anymore)

one of the main issues of those sporadic donations is that they seem to be too fragmented, maybe they should put a lot of money into an particular project until it can walk with it own legs before helping someone else?

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: EMO GANGSTERI'm starting to think the reason epic is spending so much money and losing profits so much Is that they're trying to get bought out for big money later, I hope I'm wrong.

They already have big money, they are not an empty startup like say Twitter or Discord that earns no money, so I doubt that.

it would be kinda hilarious if apple out of all companies end up purchasing then (after they were sued by epic)

Would be an interesting way to get out of a lawsuit, just buy them!

actually that may be illegal.
if they get away with that move, then other companies will sue then since they didnt proved that they were right

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Quoting: gort818

Quoting: Photon"Nanite is currently supported on PlayStation 5, Xbox Series S|X, and PCs with graphics cards meeting these specifications, using the latest drivers with DirectX 11 or 12"

Source :
https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.0/en-US/RenderingFeatures/Nanite/ [External Link]

At least for now sounds like DX is the requirement.

Since when does PlayStation use DirectX?

it dont use vulkan either

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