still no cutscenes for guilty gear x2 reload...
and the rating on protonDB is WRONG again...

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: elmapulin the end of the day, no one is paid to be impartial ( well techinically khronos and w3c are, but that is beyond the point) if you keep spending money to benefit everyone but others dont do the same, you will end up without money while others profit from it without contributing back.

Increasing the number of Linux games directly benefits Google. What's the issue that it also benefits other stores? Stadia is still in positive, because it's not the same as Steam or other stores. Titles exclusivity is a faulty method to differentiate. Features good for the users - that's something stores should be competing on.

Same goes for anyone else. If Steam or GOG help something come out for Linux, Stadia can as well benefit from it by releasing it too. So I don't see any issue in all of them collaborating on breaking this publisher deadlock situation. That's what they should have been doing all along.

"Titles exclusivity is a faulty method to differentiate. "
except that it works, history has proven again and again that this strategy fucking works, its just gamers ideology that refuse to adimit that there are more people willing to buy an playstation to play that exclusive game than people willing to boycot the console and game because they used this strategy of exclusives.
and even if consumers want to boycot this strategy, where they gonna play? nintendo make exclusives, sony make exclusives, microsoft make exclusive games and direct x wich is an exclusive api...

exclusives guarantee an minimum playerbase wich guarantee an minimum of developers interested in developing for the platform wich guarantee the playerbase will grow.

but even that is not enough nor the point:
google is spending money to convince companies to support their platform, he need to cash back this money somehow.
if we purchase those games on steam instead, then he will be spending money without making it back from us, sure there are a lot of people out there who might buy beside us, but the more the better for then.

the benefit they get from helping us is lesser than from us purchasing from then.

plus the marketshare wont move anytime soon, the sales on the other hand will happen soon.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: GuestDoes it, though? I mean, does releasing for GNU/Linux in general benefit Stadia?

I think it does, almost directly. Game released for Linux is trivial to release for Stadia (assuming all modern APIs usage like Vulkan which should be the case for modern games either way). Bethesda developers pointed it out in their Stadia talks explicitly. So it's not just expertise, simply the number of Linux games potentially increases Stadia's pool of games. I see it very beneficial for Google to make as many publishers releasing routinely for Linux as possible.

Quoting: GuestOh, and Google could let SDL2 support for Stadia be made more widely available. I think I read somewhere that someone doing work for that couldn't release it to the general public, but I might be mistaken.

I suspected they are using some custom SDL, but if they aren't upstreaming things - that's a major shame and sounds already like a stance that's actually harmful.

i think youre over estimating the benefits and underestimating the costs.

the issue with supporting linux in general is supporting all distros in all hardware combinations.
just just test against nvidia 1060, but nvidia 1060 on an intel cpu, nvidia 1060 on an amd cpu, or an specific model of intel cpu.
the game may work fine in one hardware combination but not in other and you have to figure out why, imagine testing an game with 200 hours of gameplay in countless distros in countless hardware configurations?
on stadia, you have on distro and hardware to test against and that is it, they will upgrade the hardware in the future, but you wont have to test again in thousands of video cards and cpus, only the 1 new configuration.

google could let those games get relased for linux in general, but then steam and others who sell games for linux will be able to sell those games for this public too.
sure, we arent many but at the current state i wont be surprised to discovery that most of the stadia users are also linux users, considering that stadia is one of our only options when it comes to games and they dont have as many players as we have users.
so as of right now, google is probably wasting money to port games to make money, not now but in the future, the few money that google is earning is helping to pay the costs but not much, and he gonna make it even worse by allowing others to compete with him?

one good thing that google is doing is helping the linux marketshare to grow (alongside the chromeOS marketshare wich benefits google), and this increase in marketshare may help us to get the games elsewhere anyway, especially considering that part of the cost of porting to linux was already paid, those companies are more likely to relase elsewhere once the market grown.

in the end of the day, no one is paid to be impartial ( well techinically khronos and w3c are, but that is beyond the point) if you keep spending money to benefit everyone but others dont do the same, you will end up without money while others profit from it without contributing back.

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Quoting: 3zekiel

Quoting: elmapulWhat are you expecting?

kingdom hearts, that will give pc gamers an reason to try, since this game never gets relased for pc for some reason.
and... any other big title that never get ported to pc (i cant think of any now)

street fighter 5 (i doubt it will happen), they had console exclusivity deal with sony, but that didnt stoped it from appearing on pc, so who knows about streaming?

any project diva
.hack//g.u. last recode
neptunia series, touhou series, blazz blue, guilty gear
blood stained
Yooka-Laylee The Impossible Lair
tekken / dead or alive
persona series
final fantasy series
nier series
yakuza series

and some ecchi games without censorship (just because its very unlikely)

and last but not least, cyber punk 2077 exclusive demo just to make the haters mad.

Genshin Impact would be a good addition too: https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-General/Genshin-Impact/m-p/34056 [External Link] with people being worried about invasive anti cheat. I do play it on my ps4 with chiaki to stream it on my pc, and it is definitely nice.

And I would kill to get project diva and kingdom hearts on PC, including through Stadia.

the issue with anti cheat is:
either the game have crossplay with other platforms and as result, hackers can still hack due to the other platforms...

or the game dont have crossplay and as result: you cant play with/against most of the players and the game dies on stadia, its a dead end.

another thing to consider is that google already makes money with genshin on playstore, and we can play it on android.
i think his priority should be the games that they dont have yet, and that is good for us too.

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What are you expecting?

kingdom hearts, that will give pc gamers an reason to try, since this game never gets relased for pc for some reason.
and... any other big title that never get ported to pc (i cant think of any now)

street fighter 5 (i doubt it will happen), they had console exclusivity deal with sony, but that didnt stoped it from appearing on pc, so who knows about streaming?

any project diva
.hack//g.u. last recode
neptunia series, touhou series, blazz blue, guilty gear
blood stained
Yooka-Laylee The Impossible Lair
tekken / dead or alive
persona series
final fantasy series
nier series
yakuza series

and some ecchi games without censorship (just because its very unlikely)

and last but not least, cyber punk 2077 exclusive demo just to make the haters mad.

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well, the style is quite unique

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Quoting: Avehicle7887Honestly I couldn't give a damn about Indivisible, they had the "brilliant" idea of offering exclusive skins depending on where you bought the game > Steam got unique skins / GOG got unique skins. The game also featured pre-order exclusives, not made available post release.

I'm glad I didn't buy the game to support such practices.

exclusive content sucks, but skins arent an big deal

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free is still expensive considering the crap emulator its bundled with.
hell i saw windows users complaining about the performance of that thing with an geforce 1070 , and i dont know if they fixed it already if they provide an crap support like that for windows users, imagine on linux.
get the rom and play elsewhere, free is still expensive considering you will need an expensive machine to use their emulator.

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i dont know when, but the update is finally here on ubuntu 18.04 lts

it freaking works! but i have to speak loudly otherwise my voice is supressed too, the quality is not perfect, but i think the issue is mic related, in any case its an night and day difference to what i had before.

looks like i wont be need audacity to remove the noise anymore... and... maybe i dont need an mic, if i put an music in the background of the videos of my future channel...

holly shit! i turned on my fan that i use to cool down the computer, and guess what, the mic didnt captured the sound of the fan this time!
an mic that is embed to the notebook didnt get the sound of the external fan, thanks to this feature, now i'm really impressed!

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: whizse

Quoting: aluminumgriffinNice, however I really wish they would keep mesa somewhat up to date without forcing one into a FrankenDebian, maybe start with yet another "distro sub-section" (akin to non-free) that is "gaming" with the note that it is a slight sacrifice of stability for the sake of more bleeding edge (would also be a good place to put things like fresh OBS).

(mesa in Debian/Stable is at 18.3.6 , the iris drivers (matters if you uses intel iGPU) became good quite a bit after that (in the 19.x series) - to make it all that much funnier debian stable ships with libdrm 2.4.97 (to build the 19.x mesa and later you need at least libdrm 2.4.100)
In Debian/Testing it is mesa 20.1.8 and libdrm 2.4.102 so it is a night-and-day difference in terms of performance you get in stable and testing)).

You want unstable, possibly with Mesa packages from experimental if you're interested in in rc-releases.

Backporting Mesa to stable would be difficult. You would need backports for drm, llvm, and the kernel too.

They've done it for Stretch. I'm betting it's just going to take time. They have support backports of software a lot more than they used to, it does keep Debian much fresher than it used to be.

Still, I recently was bored when I found an old hardrive that had Debian 5 installed on it. Tested the theory that it'd still upgrade to 10 without issue.

Left it on overnight as it was going at it, and then the motherboard died... I swapped motherboards and then it finished. Only thing I changed was instead of using Gnome 2.x, I changed to using lxde, as the original motherboard I was using was only a P3@466mhz. The motherboard swapped in was an Athlon 64 @.. 3.5 I think?

Try doing that with any version of Windows... or most other Linux distributions! I bet even Ubuntu would puke along the way.

its possible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WP7AkJo3OE [External Link]

from windows 1.0 to windows 8.
i'm not sure if you can update from this 8 to an 10, but you're being spoiled too much at that point ;)

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