Quoting: slaapliedjeOn the bright side you can already install different joysticks yourself. The Oled screen is what I would want. Battery life all depends on what games you play on it.

they have an special sensor on the stick that detect your finger presece, i doubt we can find one on the market with that feature + the hall sensor.
im not sure if i gonna use that feature though.

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Quoting: MohandevirMaybe... Or an actual Steam Deck refresh with better battery and 1tb nvme at the top tier. Maybe put a 128gb nvme in the low tier and the 512gb in the mid tier?

Just throwing ideas...

the things i want to see the most on the deck:

1)sell on Brasil
2)Hall Effect Joysticks (so the sticks last "forever")
3)better battery
4)oled screen.

i was going to say that: if i was valve, i would relase those features in the revisions and only after got all those features and maybe an slim model (especially for japan wich have small houses) think about an steam deck 2.
but now with this competition, droping the price should be an priority.
the original planing (if i was valve) would be something like:
drop the 64GB model to 350, 300, 250 and up to 200.
the others would have an smilimiar price cut.

but that was counting with switch as an competition or small companies like GPD, ayaneo and forgot the last one.
this thing is different the price cuts will have to speed up.

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Quoting: MohandevirThing is, the Steam Deck is already a success. The Steam Deck 2 will come, no matter what happens with the Ally, better, stronger and more feature stacked. Time will tell if Asus will still be in the handheld market, at that time.

the issue is, valve said they wont be relasing steam deck 2 any time soon, people were expecting an console life cycle of ~5 years, maybe a bit less maybe much more.
if valve relase an steam deck 2 any time soon, people would feel betreayed so they are in an complicated situation.
i think the only solution would be to drop the price, its definitelly possible, but then people who purchased an deck recently will want something as it happened with the people who purchased a few time prior to the sale where they gave it an discount.

i dont know how much they will have to drop the prices and if the new price should be permanent or not.
hopefully its not even nescessary, but asus being able to do an world wide launch before the deck , and the deck having to drop the prices sooner than valve expected can be a major blow.

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Quoting: Liam DaweI think perhaps it's more a case that DXVK was just there and ready for them, so it was far easier to do this way?

Forking an existing tool is much easier than creating your own from scratch, for sure; if they'd done the latter then it would be a much stronger signal that they don't like using DirectX. But they didn't need to use Vulkan at all: Direct3D can do ray tracing. So they've made a decision to use Vulkan.

It might be that they prefer the ins-and-outs of using Vulkan; it might be that they wanted it to be multiplatform (which a DirectX solution wouldn't be); it might be that they wanted it to be open source (which a DirectX solution wouldn't be). Any combination of those would be good things, I think.

But, yeah, maybe there were enough OpenGL games that they didn't want to leave behind, and maybe Collabora's OpenGL-to-DirectX translator just isn't as good as DXVK; but that's not as interesting.

i dont think they want to support OpenGL and Dx prior to 12 for a long time, so translating then to a modern api is the next best logical choice.
DXVK already exist, and supporting RayTracing on vulkan + using DXVK seems to be an better option for then than writing their own translation layer to translate to dx12.

i wonder if those decisions where based on xcloud vs geforce now competition, or an quick prototype of both options have show then better results in this aproach than one based on DX.

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i dont think this is a good idea for 2 reasons:
1)it will differ from the artistic vision (not that any modder care)
2)some old games have baked lights on their textures, RTX wont remove the shadows properly, so the end result will look like crap.

but hey!
" It does this with thanks to the DXVK translation layer, which NVIDIA now have their own fork of just for this. This is the same tech NVIDIA used for Portal with RTX."
that line surprised me! i wish windows users realized how many of the improvments they see in their ecosystem were possible thanks to the linux or opensource comunities.

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Quoting: melkemindNeither is committed to this the way Valve is.

they did this with netbooks and where an sucess.

part of me want then to fail, the other part want everyone else to leave the market+they fail, to show consumers that they were never serious about it, then, when valve launch steam deck 2, the revenge of the siths people will know who to trust.

another option would be, they sell a lot but most people simply install steamOS on it, but im not sure what shienigans they will try with drivers.

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Quoting: MohandevirIf so, I'll wait for the Steam Deck 2, in this case.

smokescreen or not that might kill the momentum that the deck have.
microsoft is famous for doing (among other stuff) vaporwares, promisse something, never deliver, but manage to kill the interest on the competition product, kinect was an good example, i was one of the ones fooled by the milo demo and one who thought "purchasing 4 wii motes to play with 4 persons is worse than purchasing one single kinect to play with a lot of people) not to mention xbox360 had better graphics than the wii.
luckly for me i was too poor to purchase any, otherwise i would regreat.

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Quoting: PeciskI feel this device has drawn attention because a) Windows gaming fans feel threatened because I have never understood why

there are a few reasons for that, linux users trash talking windows dont help much...
fanboys will defend their favorite platform no matter what, especially when its attacked by others, an playstation fanboy might not have anything against xbox, but if he saw an xbox fanboy trash talking playstation the trend will be for him to start hating xbox.

a lot of people have their reasons to love windows/microsoft (emulation, backward compatibility and everything being compatible with it) and dont have a good impression on linux, it didnt help much that we tried to promote linux since it was in a... barebones state, i mean didnt had much support for games and stuff.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeit's optimized for that lower resolution and hardware of the Steam Deck, as like for like in resolution / settings, the Deck performs better.

no one forces you to use the ally in max resolution that the screen support.

Quoting: stormtuxFor now Valve has one year head start on the software: UI workflow, performance optimizations, drivers, integration with the Steam environment, the compatibility evaluation system etc

the issue is, the end user dont know about this, UX is only relevant for the people who currently own an product, not the ones who gonna purchase it.
unless the reviews come and talk about those issues.

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Quoting: Pecisk. Essentially, even XBOX is not that interesting to them. It is not a huge money maker.

i dont know, spending 70 billion on a company is much even for microsoft standards.

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