Quoting: CFWhitmanYou're right that announcing a Steam Deck 2 with a release target now would be a mistake. However, he didn't do that. Basically, he just said that they plan to continue with handheld consoles. Yes, you know there will most likely be a Steam Deck 2. However, you also know there will most likely be a Playstation 6. Anyone who is waiting for the final iteration of a console is going to be waiting forever. I'm sure that there are people at Valve talking about what the appropriate length of time is to wait before considering the release of the next iteration.

i hope people dont miss interpret it, i mean, if you count it as an console, then sure the next iteration probably will relase in 5 years, but if you count it as an "PC" then its quite unpredictable.
i hope valve dont plan to do an "steam deck pro" nor "steam deck 2" any time soon, and i dont think they are so stupid, i'm just a bit worried on how other people will interpret that news.

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Quoting: areamanplaysgame

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: areamanplaysgame

Quoting: elmapul"why i cant play on linux"
"oh, because those games are proprietary and evil ! and made to be windows exclusive!"

It's not because they're proprietary and evil. It's because they are developed to run on one operating system and not another. What Proton does is very quickly approaching magical. Even console gamers understand you can't put an Xbox disc into a Playstation and expect it to work.

do you know what "quotes" mean?

Yes. Your post was alleging that "they're proprietary and evil, and windows exclusive" is an "excuse" that Linux people use for incompatibility.

It's not. It's a straw man you made up, and in reality, people are aware that different platforms usually run different software.

its not an strawman if you saw the arguments before...

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i would like to follow the linux marketshare grow using the steam hardware survey, but looks like its offline...
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam [External Link]

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google paid capcom 10 millions to port RE7 and RE8 for stadia, i bet they did the same for destiny, i dont think bungie want to lose the opportunity to charge valve for the "oportunity" to run their game in valve's platform.

fortunatelly that is not an game that i care about and we still can play as soon as stadia work on it, unfortunatelly things like this are one of the reasons why people will install windows on deck.

i understand their reasons (money and cheaters) but still, the its creepy me out their choice of words, they didnt tried any PR bullshit.

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" Feel free to let me know in the comments what other types of Steam Deck content you want to see!"

i sent an comment on youtube about it...
test the demo scenes from blender, how long it take to render then.
i would like to see a few other tests too..
godot:

tps demo
junk shop demo (an blender scene ported to godot):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM72QaC5yiA [External Link]

interior scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkRkTgoldLo [External Link]

ella an study in realism:
https://cybereality.itch.io/ella-a-study-in-realism [External Link]

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Quoting: areamanplaysgame

Quoting: elmapul"why i cant play on linux"
"oh, because those games are proprietary and evil ! and made to be windows exclusive!"

It's not because they're proprietary and evil. It's because they are developed to run on one operating system and not another. What Proton does is very quickly approaching magical. Even console gamers understand you can't put an Xbox disc into a Playstation and expect it to work.

do you know what "quotes" mean?

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unfa works with audio professionally, heres he opinion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvWgm6aZTQA [External Link]

it was tested a few months ago, so maybe things have changed.

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Quoting: elmapulactually that is bad...
i cant remember the name, but there were an console in the past that was killed because it announced it sequel too soon.
people stop purchasing thinking: why should i buy an <console_name> if they gonna relase the <console_name2> soon and the one i just purchased will be obsolete? i will wait for the <console_name2> instead!
as an result, the company stop selling <console_name> and went broke before they could relase the <console_name2>...

i'm not saying valve will go broke, but announce an steamdeck2 too soon may afect the sales of steam deck 1.

I've been browsing articles about the Deck outside of GoL, and I see a lot of comments from people saying they plan to wait--either for the software to mature a bit more, or for the next version.

Mind you, Gabe is saying they've got more demand than they expected, so that just might mean this machine will keep on getting buyers for some time.

i know they will take sometime to relase the steam deck 2, but they should make sure that people know it will take some time.

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actually that is bad...
i cant remember the name, but there were an console in the past that was killed because it announced it sequel too soon.
people stop purchasing thinking: why should i buy an <console_name> if they gonna relase the <console_name2> soon and the one i just purchased will be obsolete? i will wait for the <console_name2> instead!
as an result, the company stop selling <console_name> and went broke before they could relase the <console_name2>...

i'm not saying valve will go broke, but announce an steamdeck2 too soon may afect the sales of steam deck 1.

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Quoting: Anza

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: elmapulyou need an comparision point... eg: test it on windows too.
i saw a lot of reports on protonDB from people who never played an particular game saying it run flawless on linux, then you open the game and... where are the cutscenes? where is the video behind the title screen?

If they didn’t notice something is wrong, then Proton did its job nicely :grin:

sigh, nope, they never tried the game on windows so they dont know they are missing some features.
some people may not care about missing features, but a lot of people do, especially those who know those features supose to be there.
if we dont fix it, they will go back to windows.

Cutscenes is bit more of an licensing issue. Linux could play them, but Valve can't include the codec because it would eat their profits.

What Valve is doing is that they automatically re-encode the videos into free format. And at least these days there's hint that there's a missing video.

sigh, that is not the issue, end users dont want to know the reason, they want things to "just work", or at least to know that something isnt supported.

this conversation has being going forever.
"why i cant play mp3,wmv, xyz on linux?"
oh, thos proprieatary formats are evil, you should save your file format in an libre format instead!
fine... but i already downloaded this music... plus the free codec to compact video is crap!

"why i cant play on linux"
"oh, because those games are proprietary and evil ! and made to be windows exclusive!"

^then we solve those issues:
why the cutscenes on this game dont work?
"oh because..."
sigh.

no one want "excuses" people want solutions, now, i know why the cutscnes dont work, i just wish people could be informed that they will be missing part of the content by playing on linux so they can make the informed decision of if they care or not about the cut content.
if we cant fix it now, at least let people know that they are playing without the story of the game, so they dont spoil the experience, ask then to wait until this problem is solved and let then know when its fixed.

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