Quoting: LoftyBut you said yourself, you can choose to run anticheat or not.

i can chose IF the option is even there, what im trying to say is that having the option avaliable is better than not having, because if we dont have, not only i have to accept using the anti cheat but i have to accept using windows, and doing so will give control to microsoft that they will use to gain more and more control over their users.

let me try to explain with other words.

Quoting: LoftyFree software also encourages the application of free speech it isn't just about games but communication platforms themselves"

you are assuming that people are coming from valuing their freedom first, then geting something good as result later, the issue is, that isnt how most people think.

think about it, if you say to someone;
"you should give up on listen to musics because mp3 is evil, watching videos because mp3 and mp4, dvd etc are evil formats, give up on playing games because most of then only run on proprietary formats, also give up on making your own music, movies, games, chating with friends etc, because you cant do none of that in an free operating system right now, but you might be able to in the future"
do you think that person will love linux and freedom? hell no, they will think free software is shit and can only produce shit.

the reason why i started using and caring about linux was:
i got tons of virus on windows (an problem that dont exist anymore) losing my files countless times and being constantly afraid of losing the ability to use my computer (it helps nothing that my cd burnder didnt worked, pendrives and cloud storage didnt existed back then)
i grew tired of the computer geting slower over time, constalty crashing into BSOD etc.
i skiped xp, vista was too heavy to my brand new computer making it slower than the previous one a few months after the purchase and i didnt had money for another, vista broke backward compatibility with some hardwares like my printer and softwares like the game engine that i used (and probably some of the games made on it) and windows was the only system capable of runing those meaning that if microsoft ditch backward compatibility, we would lose the preservation of those games.
microsoft did some ransomware bullshit with office, among other crap moves...
and while all those bad things were happening on one side, i tried this linux stuff out of curiosity without expecting much and was surprised.
i didnt expected my video card to work but the naive me thought i knew enough code to write an video driver, so i decided to test this "hoby os" only to get surprised on how well things worked.
there were a few issues like instaling "ugly" codecs and stuff, but the system was much faster, stable and didnt had enough marketshare to worry about virus, the first game i tested on wine worked, and i didnt knew that only got luck picking an game that worked on wine on my first try, then i realized all those softwares arround me were open source, even the firefox that i was alredy familiarized with on windows, and starting loving and supporting the cause.
then later on i started learning that not all softwares were really free, like the drivers and firmwares and stuff, but at least i saw the potential.

currently the zeitgeist is "linux sucks" that is what everyone thinks, we need to change that, we need to show to people that linux can do everything windows can (or most of it, everything they care about) then when people see that linux is not just an utopy but an real thing, we can convince then to fight for more freedom.

first we show stuff like blender and what it can do, then we say "It is free software, it was developed in such model" and point to other softwares and say "It can reach the same potential if we support it" not the other way arround.

currently almost no game support linux and we have to wast tons of resources making stuff like wine/proton, resources that could be better spent creating new tech if we had the marketshare to not need wine anymore.
then even with wine/proton, people have to give up a lot of games to use linux, wich make most of then come back to windows.
then we have to convince a ton of people skeptical about this free software development model, that DRM is bad, anti cheat is bad etc, where they dont have anything to compare against, dont know about any better development model than proprietary software, they think: "that is how things are, and cant be anything else"
sigh.

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Quoting: MayeulCDisgusting...

Quoting: elmapulnow we have better android emulators on windows than on linux, microsoft is making windows run android games and even google is trying to do the same.

Oh, waydroid works relatively well. And there's interest in it thanks to the linux-on-mobiles effort (pinephone, librem5 etc).

define works, i heard the same about some emulator but never was able to find any app that it was capable of runing (not that it would matter to find an app if the ones i need dont work anyway)

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Quoting: LoftyWe can talk about market share, accessibility & compatibility all day long but the fact of the matter is, most anti-cheat is becoming essentially spyware bordering on malware. It's antithetical to what Linux is all about.
Linux is the equivalent to an open break away social-society running in parallel to a walled off industrial civilization. Trying to forge the two works for a while, but as ever it's either going to be 'EEE' or just simply the last 'E'.

that time i gonna reply something else other than the reply to my own comment lol.

i think discussing anti cheat is a bit of a null point.
sure we shouldnt sacrifice freedom, but we can avoid DRM and anti cheat systems by geting informed on what games are using those techs and avoiding any game that use then.
the issue is: what about everyone else?

think about it: what do you prefer, everybody using linux, most of then not caring about issues like DRM and anti cheat systems running on their machines.

or everybody using windows most of then not caring about issues like DRM and anti cheat systems running on their machines?

if we cant get ride of all the layers at one, at least we should get ride of some of then.
nowadays there are a bunch of games that we cant play even if they dont even use DRM or anti cheat systems, and that was the case for most of the time in the past.

at least on linux privacy is an option, you are free to not install those games that spy on you or do other malicious behaviors, on windows even that isnt an option, the OS itself spy on you.

honestly i'm tired of this all or nothing aproach, if i have to wait one more year to play certain games, then i might as well go back to windows to never look back.

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i'm prety sure they will test... on their controled enviroment (steamOS 3 + steamdeck hardware)
if it got issues with the drivers elsewhere, well, that is not an priority for then.
honestly, there is another issue here:
for how many years valve will support steam deck and the games you purchase on it?
i mean, on a console you purchase and expect it to last at least 5 years until the next generation came, but on deck, we dont know how often valve will relase new models, as soon as the competition start catch up in prices they will need to relase an "deck pro" or "deck 2", where by the pro model i imply that they will still support the base model making sure new games work on it, but on the "2" model i imply that new games may not work on the previous models...

i hope they can give some guarantee that certain games will work forever (namely those who dont receive constant updates) and the ones who do only stop working when the hardware cant run they anymore.

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as if that was not bad enough:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/9/22827037/google-android-games-windows-pc-google-play-games [External Link]

now, i know that steam games and android games arent the same, android has tons of casual games filled with lootboxes and micro transactions, while steam have the more traditional "games for gamers" type of games.

the issue is, we need linux to appeal to both publics, people who only play traditional games and people who play both types of games in order to reach an mainstream audience that we need to finally break the chicken and egg cycle problem.

steam deck seemed to be the thing that may change everything, but now we have better android emulators on windows than on linux, microsoft is making windows run android games and even google is trying to do the same.
sigh.
google should be spending money on chromeOS or stadia instead ihmo, but no, looks like they're giving up competing in that market and doing decisions that will backfire against the linux ecosystem again.

personaly i dont care about android games, i just hope that this wont affect the deck popularity enough to break the current trend of more and more things starting to work on linux (natively or via proton) and reverse it.

i mean, imagine if we start to have killer productivity apps like office, photoshop and maya, but apps that were born on mobile coming to windows, linux would suffer again, it already happened, sure it wont happen for things like image editors, but we already have new markets like youtube, substance paint etc.

and what is even worse, i foresee we will have hybrid apps using libraries exclusives to windows and android at the same program.

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another fix for a bug we didnt knew existed but was a huge deal...

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Quoting: slapin

Quoting: BielFPsIs O3DE very different from the current Lumberyard used on New World?

O3DE lacks many lumberyard/cryengine features and has new renderer which completely breaks compatibility, most of changes are I guess due to wish to cut as much cryengine tails as possible, so lots of stuff is missing and has no actual replacements. If you're not ready to dive into C++ code and not ready for some surprises, I can't recomment O3DE or Godot to use for any serious development. For small range projects both are OK now (O3DE has very high hardware requirements though in comparison to Godot 3.x).

the sonic colors remaster was made on a fork of godot, acording to a godot developeer it probably was heavly customized since godot 3.x is not capable of making games like this.

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Quoting: crseNice to see an alternative to Unreal and Unity. I've seen a lot of developer in my country simply cannot afford those two software, while other alternatives are not powerful enough to support their vision.

they are both free unles you make an certain ammount of money, so i dont get the "cant afford" part

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speaking of arm, cloud gaming can help the transition to arm, as its irrelevant what the computer is running...

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omg i didnt read before it was an ARM device õ.O
i cant wait for the ARM future, but i'm still skeptical, especially when it comes to legacy and emulators.

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