I don't know what's with the mass sugar-coating but everybody is entitled to their opinion. Polygon said it best - the Steam Machine solves a problem nobody has. Anyway, get the controller - it's great. My guess, though - Windows gamers will stay Windows gamers and PS4 players will stay on PS4. No GTA V coming on Linux.

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Quoting: lvlark

Quoting: maodzedunMine is yet another year of AMD disappointment. It seems Crossfire support will remain a dream (which renders my setup useless) and the single driver performance is still crap. It's very irritating considering they virtually closed the gap with Nvidia on Windows with the Omega update last year. It's one of these topics that automatically pisses me off :(((.

Hmm, strongly mixed feelings here. On one hand:

+1 for AMD due to their Catalyst support. Seeing a post on GOL about some fancy new game on Linux, only to read in the article that AMD is not supported or performs poorly.. On the other hand:

-1 for AMD due to their RadeonSI support. At the moment I'm very happy about the open-source driver performance. Victor Vran, Trine 2, Witcher 2 are the games I play at the moment, all of which perform decently with Mesa 11.1. EU4 is meh, Bioshock Infinite a tad worse, so I'll hold off on those until I give Catalyst another go.

But it still lags overall compared to Catalyst, which means is even further behind the Windows performance.

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Mine is yet another year of AMD disappointment. It seems Crossfire support will remain a dream (which renders my setup useless) and the single driver performance is still crap. It's very irritating considering they virtually closed the gap with Nvidia on Windows with the Omega update last year. It's one of these topics that automatically pisses me off :(((.

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Yeah, but in simulators you're actually doing something. In these games you're essentially doing nothing in front of a lit monitor. I don't know - I guess to each his own, but I won't get it in a million years.

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I don't get fishing/hunting games. I really don't.

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Quoting: PerkeleenVittupI guess i might be missing something, haven't followed review videos etc. but this "hype" around Batman: Arkham Knight...

Is this game in a spotlight because of its amazing graphics? Or because it's Batman? Or because it's a truly fantastic game with a great story? I find for example KOTOR as such.

Both Arkham Asylum and Arkham City were GOTY and overall great games (though the second one is far superior IMO). Arkham Knight is the conclusion of the story and many people were expecting it anxiously. Problem is the company that ported it to PC completely dropped the ball and now after 4 months of fixing it still performs horrible.

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Quoting: maodzedunHow is you not being a hardcore gamer or not purchasing EA in any way related to the performance of games in Windows.

I didn't make it a relevant statement to start with, you required it to be the butt of the conversation. I made an observation, you attacked me.

If anything it shows you don't really know what you're talking about. Which btw is clear because for all it's shortcomings (mostly security related) if Windows 10 can be praised for something it is solid gaming experienced.

Again, you're trying to make me acquire some sort of gamer "credentials" for Windows Land. I don't have to do business with EA or RockSteady for this subject. I can still test cross-platform games and software to get an informed opinion on Windows 10 "gaming". It blows, chunks, from my experience. However, my original claim wasn't to be an informative opinion. It was just a blanket OPINION and how Microsoft further ceases to amaze me how they can fuck up their own OS, on an ethical level (read the damn public private policy yourself) and a technical level.

What are you trying to get out of me? To be specific on how terrible it is (I mean I can if you want me to, but you derailed this topic so hard enough)? Or that I'm suppose to be "mad" about RockSteady's port? Fuck man, I don't know how many times I have to say this but, THEY AREN'T DOING THE LINUX PORT.

Now THAT is what is irrelevant.

I realize I may have chosen the wrong tone in my previous post and I apologize for that, but I stand firmly behind my statement - you clearly do not know what you're talking about.

Even if I didn't SIN to test out the horrors of Windows 10 (which sadly I did and barfed all over it), I can still tell you from all the information I gather on it in the public eye, that it's a piece of shit. All you are doing, is saying "You have no right to an opinion because you're not a gaming elitist like I am". You can go piss off with that nonsense.

Like I said - I apologize. I absolutely attacked you for no reason. I was probably pissed about something and whatever and stepped out of the area of good tone.
Anyway, I completely reject your position so I propose we agree to disagree.

Quoting: Storminator16This is "GamingOnLinux". If you are a Windows user here to defend Windows....I'm sure you have something else better to do with your time...maybe?

If you must know am dual booting. Not that I have to defend myself on an open forum. Unless Liam bans all pro-Windows comments I can express my opinion freely. I believe that as somebody who does most of his gaming on Windows I can bring an unique perspective to the community. But you know what they say about opinions, so - cheers.

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Quoting: Keizgon

Quoting: maodzedunOh, please - you're just a hating fanboy. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Windows. The game runs like sh*t. Feel free to check out the Steam sub-forum. The Witcher III and Battlefield 4 run at 1440p with less than 8GB of RAM but the "amazing" Batman needs 12GB of RAM for 1080p. If you bothered to actually check things before you made absurd statements you'd know that Arkham City has sub par performance to this day and Origins is plain broken with WB refusing to fix it because there was no "Steam Refund" policy at the time of its release. Feel free to recall this come spring 2016 when Arkham Knight hits Linux and it runs like absolute a**.

Wow, simmer down there salty Joe. Could care less what you just said after "hating fanboy". I have no clue what that even means. I will say this though, I love Batman. Did I ever buy a game from who you are talking about? Nope. So now I'm obligated to care about that company? Why? Hell, why should I give a shit about Battlefield 4? I never touch EA games to begin with. Sounds to me it's your own personal problem, and I don't have to be an obsessive diehard gamer to see that.

Windows 10 is going to take more RAM (every Windows does, for whatever new "feature" they want to add). Whether it takes 12 GB or 8 GB, doesn't make that statement wrong. Sorry you're offended by the Windows 10 Skynet comment. Get some more new RAM or hardware if you thought a "free" upgrade was totally worth the sanity check to feed your corporate overlords.

Of course I'm going to invest in this game when it comes to Linux. It's a completely different porting company doing it (with an approval rating from me so far).

How is you not being a hardcore gamer or not purchasing EA in any way related to the performance of games in Windows. If anything it shows you don't really know what you're talking about. Which btw is clear because for all it's shortcomings (mostly security related) if Windows 10 can be praised for something it is solid gaming experienced. Claiming that a 50% increase in RAM usage of a proven bad port is somehow the OS' problem is a fundamentally flawed statement when compered to the mountain of evidence (i.e. other games) that says otherwise.
I realize I may have chosen the wrong tone in my previous post and I apologize for that, but I stand firmly behind my statement - you clearly do not know what you're talking about.

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Is crossplatform enabled in the final release?

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Quoting: KeizgonJust looked at the Windows patch notes [External Link].

For Windows 10 users, we’ve found that having at least 12GB of system RAM on a PC allows the game to operate without paging and provides a smoother gameplay experience.

People are whining about this, but to be frank, this is why Windows 10 is trash for gamers. Well it's trash to begin with, but those complaining about this I doubt understand Rocksteady isn't at fault. Their launch was definitely their fault, but the RAM requirements is all on Microsoft's unnecessary background spyware noise. If they really don't care about their OS spying on them, Windows 10 users have no one else to blame but themselves in this situation.

Oh, please - you're just a hating fanboy. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Windows. The game runs like sh*t. Feel free to check out the Steam sub-forum. The Witcher III and Battlefield 4 run at 1440p with less than 8GB of RAM but the "amazing" Batman needs 12GB of RAM for 1080p. If you bothered to actually check things before you made absurd statements you'd know that Arkham City has sub par performance to this day and Origins is plain broken with WB refusing to fix it because there was no "Steam Refund" policy at the time of its release. Feel free to recall this come spring 2016 when Arkham Knight hits Linux and it runs like absolute a**.

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