Quoting: Eike

Quoting: meraco750$ for a sub-par gaming PC.

*lol*

There he is.

Is this the level of constructiveness we can expect from your postings here?

Why don't you get rich selling better PCs with the same form-factor for a lower price?

Great, there is just a comment and because it doesn't fit in the image of some people here it has to be "trolling". Wow, have you ever encountered the idea of asking the experience behind? The only thing I can see here in the spot is some proprietary hardware, a complete closed box, should be sold, combined with a close, proprietary platform. Yeah, and you people like to party for having a Linux completely looking like the black-box Windows here. Party on! :D

You like to party for your Steam-platform and your Steam-machines? So go on: Make everything to let your Linux look like an open-source version of Windows.

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Quoting: wolfyrionNow the situation for Linux Gamers is BAD before was Extremely very bad! :P

Yes because of even more proprietary nonsense and drivers, closed for the user which has to be opened as it is a free software platform.

Quoting: wolfyrionIf I was a fanatic gamer I wouldnt switched to Linux , who the heck would switch to Linux if all the new games are getting released to Windows?

Dark Souls 3?
NBA 2k17?
Watch Dogs 2?
MAFIA III?
Battlefield 1?

I can keep going on ...

And you see that all of these are just sequels or prequels or whatever the industry uses to generate cash and show the customers the need to consume?!

Quoting: wolfyrionAll the broadcaster , TWITCH TV Gamers , youtubers etc there is no way that would ever switch to Linux if that is keep going NOT IN A MILLLION!!!
Have you ever saw a Windows Live streamer popular gamer?? they have like more than 8k people watching their shows is not that simple to switch to Linux for a gamer.

Please don't confoundthe word gamer with this new self-promoters using games to generate money. If there would be really interest bringing the essence of game near to the people those platforms wouldn't exist. And even all the Minecraft-streamers or -players would stop immediately with all the content if there would be a new hot, cool game out there with more features and they would be payed from the company behind to promote this. The only reason for you is "streaming" and "self-promoting"? Okay: How about playing the game? No? Yes? :)

Quoting: wolfyrionYou remember the days when people were saying "Windows is for Gamers!" ?
Well that is what Valve is trying to do, turn the tables upside down which is not that simple and make people to say "Dude you still playing in Windows? lol? Linux is for Gamers!"

Ah, perfect: Let's do a mix. But you know? Doing this will only build up Linux as new open-sourced Windows. Have you ever thought about what everyone here is doing by promoting a close-source platform with only proprietary drivers? No? Yes? :)

Quoting: wolfyrionSo in order for SteamOS to succeed the answer is very simple but yet very complicated to be implemented.

And SteamOS is not a Linux as Android also is only the kernel with something more.

Quoting: wolfyrionSo in short :

1. Make it easy for developer to elease all the games at day 1 for Steams OS
2. Outperform Windows FPS at gaming with Vulkan
3. Release exclusive games for Linux even for 3-6 months
4. Improve Linux OS , system, drivers , etc

Exclusive games for Linux? As I have written above: This will change nothing. Staying that way and it could be balanced because there will be no further interest ruining the ideas behind a GNU/Linux. More people and users, more problems like this will occur and in fact it will ruin the complete idea. So what do you want? Just another Windows? Would be better to stay there as it is the "Original". Or another operating-system? Something you could modify at your will? Stop promoting this "Linux has to be like Windows!"-thing.

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Now waiting for the release on GOG, any news on that side?

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I don't get it: STEAM is not the future. In fact they have done nothing except bringing more and faster games to Linux as a whole platform. And now they bring more of the same DRM and there is a celebration about the "future"? There is not real future regarding STEAM. The magic word is "DRM-free" based on customer rights.

And turning the concurrent Linux-distribution in another Windows-like system does not help getting free and open-source software. To be honest: That's the way to be called people are doing when installing a client for this and that. This is all proprietary nonsense! :)

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Quoting: MGOidI hope this new title work better than their previous titles. Trine 1 and 2 have low performance and the 3 refuses to launch with radeonsi driver in a R9 290.

Uhm, really? As for me the radeonsi is perfectly working regarding all three Trine-titles and the framerates are also good. Have you upgraded the Mesa-stack to 11.3?

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This is in fact not a problem within Linux or better to be said of a free distribution. It is more the problem of the hardware and the manufacturer: Releasing some kind of proprietary, closed black-box is the trick. Either it is not even functional from the start on or it is a very long road getting it working. Best example: Graphic cards from NVidia. Do they work with the open-source driver? Yes, most of them but even not all. Is it possible starting a game with this? Perhaps with much luck. But most time it is more useful installing the closed drivers. Is this better? No and it does not even make any sense on an open operating-system. The same reason I'd call Ubuntu not really open-source and free. Perhaps most parts are open-source, but not all. Kind of crap and only some derivates make this better. So using Linux is not the final guarantee for "freedom", it is even no longer the starting point regarding some distributions and people like having just a clone of "Windows" there. ;)

For me I'll give nothing any longer on NVidia and also most Ubuntu-distributions are not of any interest. With Mesa 11.2 and Prime on AMD many games work very well, even on Trisquel as a really free distribution. Also having the newest hardware of Intel with newest SSD-technology also give me personal the feeling being more insecure at all because there are problems within the hardware itself for some time now.

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Yet this is not the best way: Releasing the source code so that fans could do the port. Why not? There are games like "Arx Fatalis" or "Albion" where this model was used. Even "OpenXcom" uses this! The original files are necessary but the binary is open and free. Regarding "Gorky 17" the port is even today on modern systems functional without no further problems. Topware is only making money again with the title!

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Am I dreaming? o.O Finally someone learned that DRM is for nothing, only external control?

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Well then I hope there will be an update also on GOG using the new version. I will never use Steam and don't understand anybody using this DRM, wether on Windows nor Linux. DRM is a No-Buy for me and will stay that way! Proprietary software with no further restrictions is one thing, but proprietary software with forced account restrictions is a whole other thing!

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Quoting: KimyrielleHandling graphics drivers in Linux is still an absolute pain and is probably THE single biggest obstacle for the average user to get a Linux based system ready for halfway serious gaming. Both AMD but also NVidia have to get their act together eventually and release something that installs with one click, you know...like in Windows. Right now we're a far cry from that. And no, NVidia isn't much better. Optimus. 'nuff said.

Interesting: I have no further problem running the driver installation. You want a one-click-installation? Stay with Windows. Simple as that. :D

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