Quoting: Eike

Towards the end of Act I though, things definitely take a turn for the weird. You'll be hard-pressed to put it down

This is a full game, not just episode one, right?

Full game.

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Quoting: LosButchAnyone have experience with multiplayer cross platform? Curious about this game, so how hard is it to host a game with a windows, mac and linix mix?

It's fully cross-platform between Windows and Linux. It's not available for macOS.

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Quoting: Linuxwarperstuff and things

And I'll say for the record again, if everything about Linux gaming ends up relying entirely on Proton and we never see any other kind of "support", then this as a website becomes pointless and I'll just up and quit.

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Quoting: bradgyFirst XCOM2 playthrough here (only 5 years late, oh well), and I am sucking, hard.

Prepare to continue to suck :D

Such a great game though.

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Quoting: Rooster

Quoting: GuestNot officially, but there are a small few of their devs who will fix wine issues and add them into the patches.

Again, that's not the same as actually targeting Proton. Targeting Proton would be if the dev officialy made it clear that they intent for the game to work through Proton.

And don't worry you are not being a pedantic a-hole :grin: I'm actually glad you mentioned it, as I didn't know about it. I just don't see how it is different from the example I mentioned with No Man's Sky.

Yeah, Blizzard just threw a bone a few times to Linux players over the years and not much else. Targetting Proton would mean having Linux machines setup, with regular testing and if something breaks to not roll it out - and who is really going to do that?

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Quoting: rustybroomhandle

Quoting: GuestChill out dude/dudette.

You are still being useless troll.

I will quote myself also:

Quoting: rustybroomhandle"When Proton does get marketed to developers it will be in the form of a feature complete build target. ie "Here, support this, ktnx"

Quoting: rustybroomhandleI also said that Valve would probably present it as a solution to developers once it's in a complete enough state. I have no feelings about this either way.

These two quotes of mine say the same thing. You literally made 0 argument and have not answered my question asking how Microsoft takes control away from a Linux user that plays Windows games using Proton.

I'm not speaking to you any more. I'd have more meaningful discussion with an infected boil.

Please calm down, no need for name calling. I believe mirv is simply trying to expand on what I said, about targetting Proton simply being Windows. The point is: Microsoft control everything about it, because Proton is basically copying and following Windows so Microsoft have the ultimate control over what it does and where it goes.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleI'm saying if Valve can provide a feature complete Proton that they support, then they could maybe talk some developers into adding this to their list of supported targets.

That makes more sense. However, feature complete? Any time Windows and DirectX change, it will be playing catch up. I don't think it will be possible to have such a thing.

Quoting: rustybroomhandleAnyway, I'm not a moron, Liam.

Weird way to sign off your post, didn't in any way suggest you were ... and people say I can be quite blunt? Heh.

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Quoting: GuestThe amount of reactionary doom mongering and told you sos in the past 2 weeks compared with the silence from the same people now speaks volumes. They are little more than hate for clicks peddlers

You just described most youtubers and most other content creators :P

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleWhen Proton does get marketed to developers it will be in the form of a feature complete build target. ie "Here, support this, ktnx"

That's just Windows. There is no special Proton build target, it's just Windows.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleThis depresses me.

I don't begrudge Stadia for existing. Sure, exist, chew up all the bandwidth you want. (seriously, it's ecological disaster levels of bandwidth) But it bothers me that in all likelihood, precisely 0 of these games will see a native Linux release anywhere else.

It is a shame on that level yes but for the Linux desktop there's just no good marketing going on backed up with hardware. The reason all the games go to Stadia is it has marketing and a company properly backing it. Whereas we have Valve with Proton which still isn't advertised anywhere on Steam for over two years - and when it is, you'll then probably see even less developers caring about direct support. Many things to think on...

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