Quoting: PJ

Quoting: SchattenspiegelLet's hope the ones crossing over do not come into contact with GNOME desktop first. Otherwise they might start to find windows 11 not so bad after all. ;-)

and that's debatable. My personal experience is that when I introduce some non-techie to Linux Gnome works best (with addad dock and some minor tweaks). Those were folks that actually kept using Linux.
With "techies" KDE is usually the best choice. Sucks with default settings but you can do almost anything with it.
IMO one of the issues with Linux desktop is by default every single DE sucks... even though every single one (among the major ones) is actually awesome.

The sad fact of the matter is, KDE has too many options, and Gnome not enough. There needs to be a nice middle. Sure there are Cinnamon and Mate, both trying to be what Gnome 2 was. Personally I prefer a nice clean Gnome install (only extensions I really use are to add the icons back to the status bar, as there are some programs that legitimately need them to work correctly and otherwise don't 'dock' anywhere).

I can only imagine KDE on a 7" 1280x800 screen though... oof. I think when I get my Deck, I'll be putting Gnome on it :P Then again I may just put Debian on it and call it a day as well.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Alm888New API? I wonder, what will it be?
In my impression developers just need to target WIN32 API releasing for Windows and Valve will do the "magic". Well, that and Vulkan is preferable. At least Valve has said as much…

Well to be honest in order to fulfil "that will tell games if they're being run on the Steam Deck" that API could be just /etc/os-release :-)

Seems to me all they'd need to do is add the controller scheme to the Input API that already exists. More developers should use that anyhow, as it makes in-game prompts for buttons SO much better!

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Quoting: TheRiddickAdobe products work in this? probably have some major performance issues when doing real work such as hw video encoding..

Seemed to me older versions were supported? Would be interesting to see any performance metrics if it did. It isn't like Windows or Mac have the corner market on hardware video encoding.

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Quoting: Supay

Quoting: slaapliedjeOr that the earth is flat! :P

Yeah, I don't see a whole lot of people buying it just to format and install Windows on it. There are plenty of Windows Mobile PCs out there. Windows could potentially also stink for the controls that the Valve guys have been tweaking and perfecting to run under Linux. Windows' game input can consume a full satchel of richards as far as I'm concerned. Only Windows would force me to disable drivers in device manager because it can't figure out that my mouse is not a game pad, or even allow me to re-order the game controllers it does detect, so that I can actually get the controller to work. This happens on a lot of games in Windows... Never had such an issue in Linux.

I once plugged in one of Microsoft's own USB joysticks, a Sidewinder, and Windows detected it as a Palm handheld computer and installed it as such. Manually sorting it all out was a right pain.

Buahahahahahahaha!

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Quoting: DefaultX-odJust to chime in, MS office 2016 is SO smooth now with this version of crossover, and it seems that it's smoother than LibreOffice, also I was able to activate Excel extensions for the first time.

It always seemed to me that Crossover was for those who really needed to run MS Office or Adobe Photoshop, though I don't know how well it's ever ran Photoshop. I've paid for crossover a few times, for testing and for giving some money to the Wine developers.

Wine/Proton is a good layer, as it still does enable one to use software that even Windows 8+ has issues with.

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: MohandevirImo, the pre-orders was just a means to "test the waters". Now that they know there is a lot of interest, they should gear up for mass production accordingly. That's what I would do, at least.

Yeah, hope so. When the rumours started, it was clear that this could be a device that sold 10s of thousands or 10s of millions, without a way of telling in advance which it would be because it's so dependent on implementation specifics and market conditions, both of which are unknown. I just want everyone that wants one to be able to get one.

It sounds to me (from the original IGN interview they had with Gabe before it was announced) that they did the 5 dollar pre-order to be able to tell people about when they'd be able to receive their order. I think mine said Q1 2022. And I got it in maybe 10m after it opened. Granted I had a lot of 'can't process your order at this time' and just kept trying.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: damarrinTo rain a little on everyone's parade (mine included), people on another gaming website I go to have been saying en masse how it's an instant Windows install for it to be even remotely useful. That's what the "general public" thinks, unfortunately :-(

Well, while I fear too many will, taking loud people on the net for the "general public" might also lead to the impression that most people wouldn't like to have a Covid vaccination...

Or that the earth is flat! :P

Yeah, I don't see a whole lot of people buying it just to format and install Windows on it. There are plenty of Windows Mobile PCs out there. Windows could potentially also stink for the controls that the Valve guys have been tweaking and perfecting to run under Linux. Windows' game input can consume a full satchel of richards as far as I'm concerned. Only Windows would force me to disable drivers in device manager because it can't figure out that my mouse is not a game pad, or even allow me to re-order the game controllers it does detect, so that I can actually get the controller to work. This happens on a lot of games in Windows... Never had such an issue in Linux.

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Quoting: jarhead_h

Quoting: bisbyxCan we also note here:

The Linux port was put on hold while TROY was exclusive to Epic

Epic's complete lack of Linux support means games don't get ported to Linux as well (Because why would you port a game to Linux if there is no way to ship the build or launch it, due to contractual obligations that says distribution must go through EGS which doesn't support that).

Steam's solution sucks for Feral (and anyone doing porting) but at least we get the games running on Linux.

I'm at the point where I just won't buy a game that was an Epic exclusive. I've still got half of my Steam library never installed, so I'm not lacking for new games. If they are going to block me from even playing it, the hell with 'em.

ha, I gave in and bought Mechwarrior 5 on EGS... then realized I didn't need it right then... so waited until it was on Steam... only time I've ever installed EGS.

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Quoting: GuestWell, I guess it's time to reinstall Windows on my main gaming PC again. With Ethan Lee and Ryan Gordon raising concerns, Feral cancelling ports and many other developers bailing out of Linux gaming, I don't see any reason to stay. I don't want to mess with custom Proton runtimes, DLL overrides, env variables and many subtle bugs that plague even the games with "Platinum" rating on ProtonDB - I just want to click and play, like a normal person.

If you legitimately find games that have Platinum Rating and you're using the same OS / Proton version as the report, then you should report with the problems. Platinum should be 'you click install, it installs, you click play and it plays just like on Windows'. There is no 'subtle bugs' that should be affecting it. Unfortunately if people don't make reports, people won't know of the problems.

Also, people need to rate things correctly. Platinum should literally mean 'push button, play game'. If you have to do custom dlls, side scripts, etc. Gold is the best it should ever get. So yeah that's probably a good indicator that someone marked it wrong if they say 'works flawlessly... after I did this.' That is NOT what Platinum rating is for!

Unfortunately ProtonDB is a community effort, and I think there probably needs some better oversight for it. Like say... Valve should pay some people or something :)

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Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: slaapliedjeGURPS being d6 based makes it cleaner, I think.

It's all good. I think my writing was not great, sorry about that.

I too, enjoy D6 based rules. My group did ok with a slightly home ruled Traveller, and I'm thinking of trying them on D6 Space or mini6. They are definitely more into the narrative part of the game rather than simulation aspects, which is ok. I just know I'm prolly not going to get them interested in a book full of charts, lol.

Ha, stay away from Role-master then!

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