Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: F.UltraStill sad that still in 2018 things get's completely wiped on firmware updates. Wouldn't it be nice if vendors of controllers, BIOS/UEFI, Smart TVs and so on would put the configuration on a separate memory location that didn't get wiped.

Speaking of wiping things...

I was all happy, booted into Linux, launched Steam, which I thought pulled in the new version, but it doesn't auto-restart itself, so when I turned on the Steam Controller, nothing. Restarted Steam, it then said there was a firmware. Started the firmware update, but it said I had to plug it in.

Plugged it in and... my hard drive went away. Now I'm creating a LiveCD to fix my Debian install.... looks like grub got completely borked!

Hopefully my drive still has data on it... it literally started popping up a bunch of ext4 errors.. :(

I think this is one of the "don't confuse correlation with causation" situations. Unless it required you to be root I have a hard time seeing Steam being able to overwrite the MBR of your drive. Most likely is that there is some kind of problem with your drive that happened to show itself at that particular moment (perhaps the download of the firmware was the first time there where a write done on this particular partition for some time).

My theory is that it tried to mount the Steam Controller as a drive, and for some weird reason my BIOS decided that drive should be /dev/sdb (my Linux drive) because it acted exactly as if /dev/sdb had been unplugged. I ended up updating my bios there was a fairly recent update) and then doing the update again and it worked fine.

The thing is, clearly Steam doesn't have to be root to write the firmware to Steam Controller, it also doesn't have to be root if you have Linux set up to be able to mount USB devices automatically, which almost all desktop OS's are set up that way.

To be fair, it never actually got to the 'update firmware' stage, it gave an error that I needed to plug it in, I plugged it in, the dialog disappeared as did my system.. .for a time. Besides having to run grub-install /dev/sda and update-grub (after I got back into Debian to add Windows back to the boot loader).

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Quoting: Ardje

Quoting: Patola

Quoting: liamdaweI just tested, works as expected with SC Controller.

Edit: To be clear, that's in normal mode :)

Thank you very much!!!!

Anyway, the downgrade is also really easy. Plug in the steam controller in your pc, mount it as a vfat controller, *dd* the firmware image over the old "image".
To be clear: the vfat is not really a vfat, it is just a fake file system mapping to the real flash memory.
That's why you need dd, anything else might replace the file with a new file, which of course does not work.

There is a roll back option in the controller configuration page of Steam BPM.

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I wonder if at some point Wine (or something similar) will be ported to Windows 10. With all the Linux subsystems being released, I kind of half expect them to ditch the NT kernel. Ha! Wouldn't that be the day?

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: slaapliedjeMy point is it isn't really their original art. Battletech has a huge amount of backstory to it from decades of novels, games, etc.

I'm not a Battletech guy, but it seems Jordan Weisman has some power to set its universe. Way, way more than me or you for sure.

From what I can find from briefly looking, he founded FASA, which produced Battletech, not that he was the original creator of it. Wow, if you look at who owns the IP, it's almost as crazy as Commodore or Atari.

It's been passed around like a bong at a party.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Saga_of_the_Gray_Death_Legion [External Link]

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Wasn't this game already released? Pretty sure it was called Postal 2. :P You know, walking around and urinating on people?

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At least we're getting Bum Simulator!

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: elmapulthings will never end at this rate, its a "cat-and-mouse game"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_and_mouse [External Link]
just like wine will never be perfect for the same reason.

Welll . . . Wine will never be perfect for current Windows. But over time the proportion of software that was written for Windows-before-the-present gradually increases, and current Windows seems to be getting worse at backwards compatibility, probably deliberately for certain tactical reasons which I think may be mistaken.
So in theory Wine could become approximately perfect for pre-current Windows, and that becomes a more and more important role.

windows indeed cut the support for old softwares/games (that takes time because microsoft understand that killing the backward compatibility may harm then)
you cant play old dos games on windows anymore, indeed.
except that you can!

dosbox has an version for windows, gog even uses it to sell old games on windows.
so even if windows lose backward compatibility, gamers will be able to play their games anyway, some one will port something like wine to windows, or companies will port their old games and the worse part is, even games distributed with dosbox emulation may not officialy support linux (even if the game is still playable, people considering use it will stay away thinking that the game cant run, or new users will have trouble making it run)

Yeah, Dosbox is great for Dos games. My perfect example of Windows not working with Windows is Interstate '76. It's been a while since I tried it, but even on Windows 7 the colors were all sorts of jacked up, no matter what I did. It works perfectly in Wine though.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: slaapliedjeThis is why there is no such thing as heteronormative.

IMHO, you're just misinterpreting the term. It's not used to say that being hetero is unnormal, it's supposed to say that being hetero is not a norm/standard to be set for everybody. There's different people, and that's ok.

Nothing about video games is necessary. Their contents (and their very existence) are up to the makers/artists. Question is, why do you think artists shoulnd't put non-hetros in their art?

Sorry, but this totally describes what you are doing at this very moment: You want to dictate the makers of the game to stop such "completely unnecessary inclusion". They are "the original writers" of their game.

My point is it isn't really their original art. Battletech has a huge amount of backstory to it from decades of novels, games, etc.

That'd be the equivalent of me creating a Star Wars novel and revealing that Luke wasn't a hermit because of... whatever the Last Jedi explained, he was depressed because he failed to kill Ben Solo? Or that he was supposed to? But instead Luke became a hermit because he really wanted to be a woman. People would be pissed, right?

Same with the new Klingons in Star Trek: Discovery. I mean why? Why recreate them for the 3rd time?

My point being, if you're going to make a game/novel/movie, stick within the bounds of what came before you. Or just make up a different universe yourself. On that note, when can Jedi live in the vacuum of space? Or make them selves a solid/yet not solid manifestation across the universe? Sorry, that movie was terrible...

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Quoting: STiATBy the way, in Linux it's leaking memory as hell, after an hour of gameplay my 16 gig ram were full.

Awesome, only thing I've seen eat through ram that fast was Minecraft with mods.

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Quoting: F.UltraStill sad that still in 2018 things get's completely wiped on firmware updates. Wouldn't it be nice if vendors of controllers, BIOS/UEFI, Smart TVs and so on would put the configuration on a separate memory location that didn't get wiped.

Speaking of wiping things...

I was all happy, booted into Linux, launched Steam, which I thought pulled in the new version, but it doesn't auto-restart itself, so when I turned on the Steam Controller, nothing. Restarted Steam, it then said there was a firmware. Started the firmware update, but it said I had to plug it in.

Plugged it in and... my hard drive went away. Now I'm creating a LiveCD to fix my Debian install.... looks like grub got completely borked!

Hopefully my drive still has data on it... it literally started popping up a bunch of ext4 errors.. :(

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