"rising popularity of gaming on linux" You're famous now, Liam! :P

Wouldn't it be hilarious if somewhere down the line, PC developers just developed for the Deck/Steam and Windows was relegated to what OS/2 Warp (or eComStation / ArcaOS) does, and is only for business applications? Granted that's the only thing I try to use Windows for, when I absolutely am forced to based on work requirements.

With the recent news of PACMAN, it sounds like M1 Macs aren't in any company's future. So I vote we get Linux in all the corporate desktops around the world too :P

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I thought this game was VR only?

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Quoting: detrout

Quoting: sarmad

Quoting: detroutThe Register argued that the year of the "Linux" desktop came but no one noticed because it was called ChromeOS.
https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/31/the_cynics_guide_to_linux/

Though that does suggest we might start seeing a larger share of Linux family steam users as Steam for ChromeOS gets to be more popular.

Except that ChromeOS is not actually Linux despite having the Linux kernel.

ChromeOS is not a community based free & open source desktop, but it's "technically" linux.

The claim is technically true, but in a deeply obnoxious and irritating way for those of us who want free desktops.

Then why did Valve need to release a special version of Steam for it if it was "technically linux"?

ChromeOS has their own userland, much like Android. So it isn't GNU/Linux, which is what everyone abbreviates to 'Linux'. I wouldn't call ChromeOS Linux anymore than I would Android. Both can technically add a GNU (and others) userland, but then they have less control over what they want to allow to run... not to mention if your OS was completely open source, it is so much harder to force obsolescence every two years...

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Quoting: CyrilSo I start to hope a bit we can see this dev to port more games in the future on Linux/macOS.

Looks like it's the same group that remastered the original Wasteland game, and the Bard's Tale ARPG:
http://s1games.com/

Not sure why they only take credit for the console ports of Dark Alliance on their website, when Steam says it was them.

Maybe because they didn't release Linux/macOS versions of those? 😀 granted they work fine in wine. I didn't even know Wasteland had a remastered version until a while ago, as there is an updated / fixed version that released with Wasteland 2: Director's cut as well.

How am I supposed to eject the floppy and cheat with these new versions though?

(There was a room toward the end where you could enter, kill all the things and loot them, then pop out the floppy disk so it couldn't write to disk that you killed them, and would load the previous room from RAM. Then you could push the disk back in, walk back into the room and it would load up the enemies again... rinse and repeat until you were no longer low on ammo, etc.)

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyDon't get me wrong, I get the impression it's a great game. I just can't see myself mastering the use of that many buttons.

The movement controls are pretty standard when it comes to space/submarine games, basically 6-axis controls. On PC I'm playing with keyboard and mouse, and have bound pitch and yaw to the mouse, while roll is on Q/E. I'm using W/S as incremental throttle and A/S for horizontal- and R/F for vertical translation.

But yeah, those are only the movement inputs. You'll also want a key for your FTL drive, for the system scanner, the landing gear, cargo scoop, cockpit mode toggle, weapon-groups, targetting, heat dissipater, flares,...

And it gets worse: The controls for driving vehicles or moving around on foot are different again...

On the gamepad/deck many controls are bound to button combos (think: while keeping Y pressed, tapping the d-pad right button will open the system map - I think), and it still feels like there are too few buttons available...

Yeah 'shifter' keys are how a lot of the thrustmaster stuff works as well, hold pinky trigger, flip this switch and something happens. I have to retrain since it has been a while since I loaded it up.

Not sure if any of the third party tools work on Linux, like the voice commands, because if you have that you can just say 'lower landing gear' and it will. I just love the Orion voice, as they got Shattner to do it.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeThat then somehow managed to get the contract for Baldur's Gate III.

"Somehow"? Is it really a mystery?

DOS2 was huge. Nobody is upset about the lack of native Linux support except Linux gamers, and we officially don't care anymore because nobody is doing native Linux games now and we have more games to play than ever.

Some of us still care. I certainly do. Unless specifically tested by Valve at this point, Proton is a hit and miss, and once you get it to 'hit' you kind of have to pin to that version of Proton so that a future version hopefully doesn't have a regression that breaks your game. Then you also end up with a massive list of different versions...

Native is still always preferred. And since a vast majority of games use either Unity or Unreal engines, there is NO excuse for a lack of native support.

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First one is native too, but I have discussed about needing to fix the fact that the Deck installs it via Proton, and they haven't enabled cross platform save sync.

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Quoting: DrMcCoy

Quoting: TheRiddickCan you really blame developers for backing out of not releasing native linux versions

Yes.

I'm a doctor, not a game developer!

Sorry, couldn't resist!

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: soulsource

Quoting: TheRiddick1-No back paddle buttons, (who uses these and for what? driving games?)

I'm using them in Elite: Dangerous. Two are bound to strafe left/right, the other two are bound to "Full Spectrum System Scanner" and "next target on route".

While I haven't installed that game yet on the deck, I've also seen that a community layout for Old World uses the back buttons for some overlay toggles.

I mean Elite Dangerous has so many buttons that I'm stuck in Windows to play it until either Thrustmaster ports it, or someone creates their own version of the TARGET software to script all the things for the Warthog...

Still baffles me how people play it with a game pad :P I bought it for the PS4, and it does seem playable enough, but I just miss the flight stick!

Guess who just decided never to try Elite: Dangerous no matter how much everyone raves about it?

Just now? Ha... I mean I guess it depends on what you're looking for... Personally, I play it in VR with a flight stick; and play it to relax. Something about being in a spaceship and drowning out reality and being able to hop across the galaxy is more appealing to me than say grinding through missions to get enough money to get the biggest ships. I even tend to try to run from pirates and such, and don't hang out and mine, as that raises my anxiety rather than letting me relax.

Don't get me wrong, I get the impression it's a great game. I just can't see myself mastering the use of that many buttons.

Oh for sure. It's kind of nuts.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: soulsource

Quoting: TheRiddick1-No back paddle buttons, (who uses these and for what? driving games?)

I'm using them in Elite: Dangerous. Two are bound to strafe left/right, the other two are bound to "Full Spectrum System Scanner" and "next target on route".

While I haven't installed that game yet on the deck, I've also seen that a community layout for Old World uses the back buttons for some overlay toggles.

I mean Elite Dangerous has so many buttons that I'm stuck in Windows to play it until either Thrustmaster ports it, or someone creates their own version of the TARGET software to script all the things for the Warthog...

Still baffles me how people play it with a game pad :P I bought it for the PS4, and it does seem playable enough, but I just miss the flight stick!

Guess who just decided never to try Elite: Dangerous no matter how much everyone raves about it?

Just now? Ha... I mean I guess it depends on what you're looking for... Personally, I play it in VR with a flight stick; and play it to relax. Something about being in a spaceship and drowning out reality and being able to hop across the galaxy is more appealing to me than say grinding through missions to get enough money to get the biggest ships. I even tend to try to run from pirates and such, and don't hang out and mine, as that raises my anxiety rather than letting me relax.

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