The Nintendo Switch has pretty thoroughly scratched my itch for a device like this, but I'm still keeping my eye on this thing.

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Quoting: truebluewooSo I am in complete agreement with @Nanobang

Every opportunity google has had to make a proper linux product, it does something insidious with it. they cannot get past data gathering / data monetisation its sickening.

They had the proper opportunity and resources to create a competing desktop linux platform, instead they build chromeos and chromeos is completely useless. They could throw some weight into wayland or even built and released their own version like canonical tried with mir, or worked with mir. In all cases nope instead they went down the selfish route of chromeos, which only they benefit from, it may run on linux but it did nothing to help desktop linux.

Android again does absolutely nothing to help with desktop linux, sure you can develop apps on linux, but can you run those same apps on linux as well ? Is there a native google apps for linux ? Nope, again its completely selfish.

Here now they announce stadia, great it runs on linux using vulkan, but instead of helping current efforts to improve gaming they build their own api, if this ever becomes succesful they will build out their own api make it completely incompatible with anything available on linux, contribute nothing useful back and infact make the situation worse.

Google suck, they have had so many opportunities to actually invest in a proper useful linux desktop platform, they could have either taken gtk or qt / kde and spent a year producing an amazing linux desktop experience and then building and selling custom hardware for it (like their pixel laptop) they could have integrated android apps, created a google drive sync made all of this available for any linux desktop distro and / or user to integrate and sell solutions for the normal novice to get behind, but instead at every opportunity all they can see is monetisation of data, basically they are as bad as microsoft they only use / abuse linux they do nothing useful for us.

Here is the real kicker, chrome was based off of webkit (which apple took from kde konqueror), they then forked from webkit and created blink, is anything from blink useable on kde ? I think not At least when Apple forked from konqueror and created webkit they gave back to the kde community, Google never gives back anything useful, everything gets wrapped into their shitty advertising platform and their shitty data gathering platforms.

It's almost like Google is a business that wants to make money. Weird.

OK, I'm being slightly tongue in cheek. I don't trust Google, and I don't like their way of doing business, but unfortunately, the "Linux way" of free software (as in speech and in some cases beer) does not lead to untold riches. It's why companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Google continue to dominate with their anti-consumer lock-in business strategy while Canonical and Red Hat are small peanuts in comparison.

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Quoting: Doc Angelo

Quoting: ajgpI dont have enough free time to make a subscription gaming service worth it. My hope is that this will drive some more Linux Ports, or at the very least push Vulkan adoption so I can use Proton/Wine.

I really wish subscriptions services wouldn't be so fixed on monthly prices. What about daily? Or hourly? Even minutes are easy to do. Just pay for whatever you actually play and make fair prices. Why not making certain games €1/hour and some games €0.1/hour. That would be a story intensive short experience and a monster-grinder respectively.

There are so many options, yet the industry is fixed on monthly prices.

The idea is to charge more than what it will cost to serve the average customer. That's where the profit comes from and why allowing the customer to control the pricing will never happen.

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The only way this thing will succeed is if Google can convince customers that renting software is in the customer's best interest.

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Quoting: DribbleondoGaming on Linux is exactly that.

A seemingly obvious but nevertheless profound statement. Does it really matter, in the end, if it's native code or being passed through an emulation layer just so long as you can play whatever you want on the operating system of your choice?

The only argument I can see against something like Proton/Wine is that there are more things that can go wrong, and the developer might balk at offering official support since they have no control over the "middleware" that is used to run their software.

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Free key please!

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GoG doesn't support Linux, so I don't support GoG. See how that works?

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Quoting: Maath$173 for a video game is hard pill for me to swallow.

Then don't spend $173 on it. The base game offers more than enough content to keep you busy for dozens of hours, and if you want more then wait for the inevitably deep discounts during sales.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Ubuntu support? Currently it's too hard to run PoE on it.

Sorry, what?
Steam -> Steam Play -> Download & play PoE.
How is that hard?

I mean, sure, native would be even better, for performance alone, but PoE is definitely one of the best running games on Proton right now (at leat post Proton 4.2). Most of the problems reported on ProtonDB are actually bugs/performance issues of the game itself (like heavy stuttering when shit hits the fan) which happen on Windows as well.
I'd know, I played on both platforms for dozens of hours ;)

As far as I know, it has always worked well in Wine. It's just that, in my opinion, the game is boring and not worth the trouble.

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Quoting: Alm888

Quoting: Mountain ManYour response reminds me of the saying "Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face."

I'm sorry , but my English is not good enough to understand the (apparently) proverb. Moreover, this seems like direct insult to me, and when one side resorts to insults, than it is a clear indicator it has ran out of arguments.

It's a bit hypocritical that you would complain about insulting language when you referred to people who use Proton as "Useful idiots".

Anyway, the saying "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face" is not an insult. It means to respond to a situation in a needlessly aggressive and self-destructive way. In other words, your militant refusal to use Proton even though it is counted as a Linux sale ultimately does more harm than good in promoting Linux as a viable and profitable platform.

Think about it this way: Who is more likely to support Linux in the future, a developer who sees zero sales from Linux users, or one who sees 10% of sales from Linux users using Proton? Now you might argue that the latter will dismiss Linux users because the developer didn't have do any extra work to get those sales, but it could also be argued that they might consider releasing a native Linux version of their next product in order to attract even more Linux customers.

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