Quoting: BeamboomBut three of those titles (Bioshock, Hitman, Saints Row) are Linux native and have always worked?

I don't think Hitman Absolution is native, and the other two while they still work for the moment, at some point might run into problems.
I remember BI working perfectly before, but recently I had some issues starting it, and the situation could get even worse in the future.

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Quoting: minfaer- Fractional scaling and different scaling on multi-monitors at least in gnome require Wayland

Is that a limitation only with Nvidia?

No, it's purely Xorg vs Wayland. See the arch wiki describing how to potter around this. [External Link]

Huh, is not something that I frequently use, but it works OK here by default.
I have Gnome 3.36.8, two monitors on Xorg, one at 175% and the other at 150%.

That's interesting, I remember a Gnome dev writing that they cant implement it on X. What distro is it? And are you sure it's X (as in  echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE  ?

Yes, is x11 on Ubuntu 20 LTS.

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Quoting: minfaer- Fractional scaling and different scaling on multi-monitors at least in gnome require Wayland

Is that a limitation only with Nvidia?

No, it's purely Xorg vs Wayland. See the arch wiki describing how to potter around this. [External Link]

Huh, is not something that I frequently use, but it works OK here by default.
I have Gnome 3.36.8, two monitors on Xorg, one at 175% and the other at 150%.

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Quoting: minfaer- Fractional scaling and different scaling on multi-monitors at least in gnome require Wayland

Is that a limitation only with Nvidia?

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I wonder how big that reviewing team actually is.
They say that:

We've hired an additional group of testers specifically for Steam Deck compatibility, and will continue to hire additional staff to support this group. It will take time to review the Steam catalog (in addition to the new titles that are being launched all the time), and we see some version of this process being in place for the foreseeable future.

Also:

It's really important for customers to know that compatibility information will be accurate, throughout the life of a game. We fully expect that some games will be reviewed multiple times - for example, when the developer releases a major update, addresses earlier compatibility failures to move their game into the Verified category, or when Valve fixes a Proton bug. There will also be re-reviews if there is community feedback that our rating is incorrect.

Looks like they're in for the long haul.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/steam-deck-compatibility-interview [External Link]

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Quoting: slaapliedjeSo my curiosity is if you could install SteamOS 2.0, and just change the repos to Debian Sid or Bullseye and it'd just update and be current, rather than stagnant.

I don't remember exactly, but last time it was either testing or unstable I upgraded to, it wasn't exactly a straightforward process, though definitely possible. Then switched to Sidux, again not straightforward. At that point I had to ask myself, is this still SteamOS, why do I even bother, if Valve doesn't give a shit, what am I doing?
It was doable at the time, but I kinda doubt is still possible now, and again what's the point with SteamOS 3 on the horizon, which will be Arch based btw.

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Quoting: dubigrasuplus a Wine tray icon floating around needlessly.

That specific thing depends on the desktop you use.... I use Cinnamon and I don't have that problem.

That doesn't mean it should happen, my DE isn't some obscure untested DE. Is still the second most used one.
And again, this is happening only on EGS games.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeI still think it shouldn't be called SteamOS 3 and needs to be 4... 3.0 was the beta branch based on Debian, and we all know Valve can't count to 3, but assuredly they can count to 4. :P

You mean the SteamOS Clockwerk attempt maybe? In any case, it was never viable, even as a beta, just an incomplete repo.

I also wish I could find some time to test it, but I don't know why you couldn't take SteamOS 2.0 and change the repositories to mainstream Debian and just upgrade to Bullseye and have a newer / stable system.

You can add Debian repos, and that's what I did for a while, but eventually Sidux offered some newer Mesa drivers I believe (don't remember exactly what it was the reason).

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Well, for me is hello Ubuntu, goodbye Ubuntu, its days as my distro are numbered.
I had a short period using it, but I've been mostly a SteamOS user since 2013, and only resorted to Ubuntu when SteamOS 2.0 was clearly abandoned (or so I thought at the time).
I did tried to keep SteamOS alive by adding Sidux repos and having practically everything up to date, but it eventually it was: what's the point?

Ubuntu served me well and I have no complaints, but for now: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish, looking forward for SteamOS 3.

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The problem with Lutris's Epic support is that by the way is it structured and presented it lets the user to believe that is an automated process, while is still mostly a manual one.
You have to know what to do and when to do, you'll still figure it out easily, and once you do, it does work (almost) reliably.
But the initial experience is confusing, you stare at it wondering: "was that supposed to happen, did it got stuck, do I need to close this window, or the other one, is this black screen normal/etc, basically it needs some trial and error runs until is clear what to do.

It has also some quirks (you'll have to double click the game image in your library, and not use the Install button, otherwise it will complain that can't find the installer adding to the confusion) and the EGS client is always dragging its feet in the background with several annoying pop-ups, plus a Wine tray icon floating around needlessly.
Sometimes it fails to install some games leaving them in some zombie state, can't play them, can't uninstall or reinstall them. The only thing you can do is delete the corresponding .yml file.
Also the gamepad support (while working OK with other Lutris installed games) is absent or not working with EGS games.

There are some more, but all in all, the Epic support feel cobbled together and ready to burst at the seams anytime. There is still room for improvements.

I understand they went with EGS instead of Legendary because EGS still has available some features that Legendary doesn't, but when comparing the usability between Lutris and Heroic, Heroic is much more streamlined and easier to use, and a less (or rather not at all) confusing experience, and IMO those whatever features are not worth the hassle to deal with EGS.

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