@adamhm
Great, thanks, I'll try both.

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OK, about the VP's port versus running the game with Wine.
Since both options are not that great and is hard to figure out which one is worse (just by playing) I've done some testing using libframetime using the same save/same settings/etc
For both tests I basically ran on sidewalks for 4 minutes on the very same (rather busy) route, not much of a test but better than nothing.
VP's port in blue and Wine in green:



As you can see, VP's port has somewhat better frametimes, but when textures are loaded there's a huge spike visibly slowing down the gameplay (though like I said, you can substantially improve this by using a fast disk or running it from RAM).
With Wine the spikes are not that visible while playing, since frametimes (although less fuzzier) are already much worse.
I would be curious to see some Gallium results here though, I imagine/hope for a much better result in this case (I might try this too if I find the time).

Also some numbers:

Wine:
Min/avg/max frametimes (ms): 40.982 / 52.0097 / 137.58
Min/avg/max FPS: 7.2685 / 19.2272 / 24.401
50/90/95/99 percentiles (ms): 52.206 / 58.942 / 60.78 / 64.29

VP:
Min/avg/max frametimes (ms): 15.72 / 22.8035 / 114.261
Min/avg/max FPS: 8.75189 / 43.8529 / 63.6132
50/90/95/99 percentiles (ms): 22.06 / 26.765 / 28.582 / 30.739

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Quoting: adamhmTry different radio stations - I found that some of them played nothing but the interludes between tracks in the official Linux release (could try running it through the Steam Runtime if you're not already?). Never had any sound issues in Wine here though, differences could be due to system configuration.

(also it looks like AO was responsible for some of the graphical glitches I was encountering in the official release)

You're right, on some stations there were only commercials. Found out though that it can be easily fixed by installing the "High Quality Radio mod" from https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/high-quality-radio-mod.9515/ [External Link]
(basically two files to be dropped in the game's main folder)
The only way to "fix" graphical glitches for me (on the VP version) is to disable dynamic lights, which unfortunately makes the game look really bland.
All in all both versions have advantages and disadvantages though, the missing dialog/sound drops+ controller issues and the missing Ambient Occlusion on the Wine version makes it a no go for me, while the rendering issues on the VP's port are also annoying enough to avoid playing it.
If they could/would fix that it would be perfect, well...almost.

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Quoting: adamhm

Quoting: dubigrasuThey are practically equal in performance, I'd wish to see it working "much better" with Wine.
To be exact, I have right now both versions installed on my drive and I can see the graphical artifacts less present on Wine (those black textures I mentioned before) but also no AO present on Wine (yes, sorry I'm repeating myself).
The most annoying thing, stutter, is also the same unfortunately.

Performance wise both will be about the same, owing to the poor state of the Windows version of the game (the game has a lot of graphical glitches even on Windows BTW - I compared with running the game on a Windows install). Still, I found that in Wine it stuttered a bit less (and wasn't stuttering like crazy during cutscenes), has fewer graphical glitches, stuff like radio music playback actually works etc.

I did found the black textures less obvious with Wine, but honestly, I can go back and forth with both versions and the stutter is the same (maybe a bit pronounced on Wine, but I can't be really sure). As for the radio music I see no issues on the native version so far.
I would be inclined to play it with Wine though (despite the missing Ambient Occlusion), since those black textures present on VP version are terribly annoying to my eyes, but the sound is a bit botched with Wine, I have missing voices/dialogs at times during cutscenes mostly and sometimes audio dropping completely (recovering after restart).
I think that both Wine and VP tech in this case are equally able (or rather unable) to deal with this game at this point, and the differences are minimal.

The single one thing that did made a difference for me with this game was running it from RAM, which did alleviate the stutter to a point where I could somewhat ignore it:

View video on youtube.com

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Quoting: ShmerlAs others pointed out, the game works much better in Wine, than in the "native" version which is actually a wrapper anyway.

They are practically equal in performance, I'd wish to see it working "much better" with Wine.
To be exact, I have right now both versions installed on my drive and I can see the graphical artifacts less present on Wine (those black textures I mentioned before) but also no AO present on Wine (yes, sorry I'm repeating myself).
The most annoying thing, stutter, is also the same unfortunately.

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Quoting: adamhmI found that running SR2 in Wine works better than the official Linux release: https://www.gog.com/forum/saints_row_series/saints_row_2_for_linux [External Link]

I just tried it, I can barely see any difference other than the Ambient Occlusion totally missing on Wine.

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...I wasn't very impressed with the port personally...

Indeed, this is one port from VP that I'm not happy with.
While the performance is acceptable for me (considering the state of the original Windows version) the graphics are botched in many places (bunch of textures are just black).

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Quoting: fabry92Sry why steamos isn't supported? I can't run serious Sam vulkan too :(

Probably the driver is too old? I run SteamOS too and I see no issues, but I install latest drivers myself.

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Certainly that would be a slow process to fix issues, but unfortunately judging from devs comments on Steam forums they just export for Linux from the Windows editor and call it a day if it doesn't work this way.
More often I see the simple OpenGL build (for Windows) being the first roadblock where they give up.

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Quoting: QuenestilNot to forgive the developers, but I've been using the Unreal Engine for a while now on Linux and they don't make it that easy to develop on the platform.

To install you have to use the Source, no binary available. No launcher and although 4.16 is quite good, in previous version there were bugs constantly crashing the Editor. Imagine the pain of someone that never worked on Linux before.

Wait, are they trying to develop on Linux, why?

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