Quoting: MotionshotOr maybe you could dig a little deeper into what people actually want before posting stuff like this?

Did I hurt somebody with my post? :huh:
I totally agree that their current behaviour looks bad. Really.
Just wanted to point out there might be various reasons for what we currently see. And DoW as a company used to be one of the good guys for more then 4 years. While other companies totally neglected us, they offered perfect support.

From what I learned while working at big corporations, we might just be part of an internal conflict. Maybe DoW didn't want to stop supporting linux and Asmodee made the decision over their heads. Now they let it escalate to get permission to fix it.

In that case, it might actually be good to start writing more bad reviews :D

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Quoting: Werzaz

Quoting: constI'm actually working on a little Unity2D implementation of an online-multiplayer table, that will let you create and import basically every card/boardgame (that's not physics based) but will hopefully have a cleaner interface and should work on mobile and desktop all the same. No 3D/physics, as I consider those unnecessary for this type of games. Basic online cardgaming already works, but I'll take my time to properly finish it.

As an alternative to Tabletop Simulator, there is always the VASSAL engine, which sounds very similar to what you are working on. The interface isn't always super clean but that depends more on the design of the board game module.

Didn't know this exist. Will take a look.

Edit: did take a look and it's absolutely not what I'm working on. My implementation should let users create the games themselves, share them how they like and looks like 20 years younger :)

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Quoting: ProfessorKaos64Fortunately,I can make a good bet someone on Tabletop Simulator's workshop has a mod for this already or will have one.

Well I can't play Tabletop Simulator with my mom, as she neither has a pc with enough horsepower nor will enjoy the interface.
I argue this while I still can play Ticket to Ride both on Linux and my tablet, but just as a reminder - Tabletop Simulator is not for everyone.

I'm actually working on a little Unity2D implementation of an online-multiplayer table, that will let you create and import basically every card/boardgame (that's not physics based) but will hopefully have a cleaner interface and should work on mobile and desktop all the same. No 3D/physics, as I consider those unnecessary for this type of games. Basic online cardgaming already works, but I'll take my time to properly finish it.

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Quoting: const

Quoting: finaldestJust checked in my library and its no longer showing under Linux. Cannot install the game.

I may just (for the very first time) request a steam refund.

As stated above: Just today, I was able to install and play this game through steam.

Please, don't let us be a community to flame and point fingers before clarifying. Give those guys a chance to fix things and politly inform them that you have issues if you have issues.

It was clearly not their plan to delete the game from every linux users library. They just decided to not add new dlc for us. All other problems did probably happen by accident, so give them a chance to fix it while staying the good guys that ported their game long before gaming on linux got close to 1% user base.

After doing some further investigation it appears that I would face an uphill struggle to get a refund as I brought this particular game in October 2012. This was before I moved to the linux platform so I am not sure if linux/steam os was supported at this time.

I have tried setting the game to download the linux beta but this did not work. I may have a linux download of the game on another hard drive but will need to investigate.

I am open to developer/valve offering a solution to this problem though but my patience is running thin as I have been unable to play this for sometime now.

I'm not sure you need to switch to the beta, anyway. For me it was a simple "press install" today and I'm sure I never opted for a beta for this game. Something's hit and miss here.

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Quoting: rafebelmontI understand if they don't want (or don't have the resources) to put more DLC to Linux users. But why drop support entirely?

I don't think they actually want to drop support for the platform entirely. If you read the reply from the developer, you will find that he only mentions no plans for new dlc.

If enough people hint them that the base-game works for some and not for others, they might be willing to do something.
If we start a real flamewar on them they might just block.

Remember these people were really early in the linux game, we definitely owe them some respect for that.

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Quoting: finaldestJust checked in my library and its no longer showing under Linux. Cannot install the game.

I may just (for the very first time) request a steam refund.

As stated above: Just today, I was abled to install and play this game through steam.

Please, don't let us be a community to flame and point fingers before clarifying. Give those guys a chance to fix things and politly inform them that you have issues if you have issues.

It was clearly not their plan to delete the game from every linux users library. They just decided to not add new dlc for us. All other problems did probably happen by accident, so give them a chance to fix it while staying the good guys that ported their game long before gaming on linux got close to 1% user base.

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I just installed the game on my steam for linux and played an online multiplayer game. If it doesn't work for some, I say it's not because they actively tried to make it stop working. The developer in the thread even said they want to help those who can't install it.
Don't start a flamewar over it just yet.

What they have confirmed is that new dlc won't come to linux and I'd say that is up to them.

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Quoting: liamdaweYes my book of shame does exist.

Well, this is a book of shame, but not a failed-kickstarter-linux-promises one.
I just crossread it and there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of kickstarter projects inside at all.

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Quoting: emphyThis is probably due to their deal with publisher bigben interactive, apparently they forgot to check the crowdfunding promises when signing the dotted line...

Absolutely inexcusable. Compare this to how obsidian treated their backers when signing a publisher deal: Pillars of eternity got released on gog fine despite paradox entertainment refusing to publish there nowadays.

Then again, paradox is probably one of the best-karma pubishers in the world :)

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Does this epic book of shame actually exist? Do we have a list of kickstarter projects that were funded well and didn't deliver a promised linux version? Maybe it should be brought to the attention of kickstarter themselves, in public.

For our community, I really think it would be wise to only talk about kickstarter projects that at least show some initiative. A demo or a build job as proof of care.

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