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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: GuestAlso, and absolutely not rhetoric, but really, REALLY out of curiosity:
Why someone on earth could have an interest in opening the whole steam to start obs!?

Presumably the people likely to do this would be people who are opening Steam anyway to play games?

If it were true, then i'd expect fro those people to add every program they use as a non steam application to their steam library.

So you mean, like, they'd add things they do while not playing games to their game-library software because that's exactly the same as adding things they do while playing games to their game-library software?

Ah, understood.
So the use case is that since obs may be used even while they are playing steam games, then it makes sense to take the burden to package and release it as a steam application, because people will prefer to start it from their library.
This honestly I haven't thought to.
Well then, but this still does not help my progress in understanding the motivations, because i don't think they are installing a browser as a steam specific app or any other app one may think of one can use while they are playing.
Ofc I may be wrong, but I really don't believe the number of users starting obs from steam justifies the release in their store.
Probably is just a matter of having more visibility or I just don't know.

Take Display Fusion for windows as example. It's a standalone app that can run without steam turned on after it's installed through steam. Steam does not enforce drm. If I could I would rather have all the apps (or even free) I bought under one umbrella to install/remove instead of remembering going to 10 places to install apps. While steam is primarily for gaming, seeing it as an appstore works perfectly fine.

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Quoting: mylkai wonder what feral will do now
they didnt get hitman 2+3. it also makes no sense to port the new life is strange
they dont get AAA like 2077

now they dont even have to port online games

I like feral, but last time I bought a game they ported with multiplayer, Company of Heroes 2, they changed the libraries so crossplay with Windows wasn't possible. I rather have proton so I can play with my friends rather then a port from them where I can't. Just saying.

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Well this isn't surprising. I expected the same kind of response that we initially got from the HTC Vive release. It's a little more expensive, but not a lot - Also everything seems improved. The pricing is a lot better then the stupid HTC Vive Pro. I'm still mad on HTC for making the price so high on that one, it never made sense, especially not after the initial release of the HTC Vive and it's pricing.

I'm a bit worried about that they went with LCD over OLED, but maybe that makes sense - we will see. Also not sure about the "off ear" headphones. I'm a bit worried that the audio will be mushy if you are in a room with friends with loud speakers.

Anyways, I'm excited! Now if I could get hold of a unit...

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Quoting: gradyvuckovicI'm pretty sure they wouldn't announce this if not for Google Stadia, and like you said, they still have no plans to actually sell any Linux games through their store.

Actually they would. This is not news, they already said they would do this quite some time ago.

Well I guess they could have prior knowledge to Google Stadia from back then as well, but I still think it would be unlikely that this move is because of that.

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Sad. Still one of the best MOBA games out there.

S2 Games fucked up a lot of times and that's why it went downhill and never recovered.

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Quoting: haagchIt's not that OpenGL is not allowed, it's just not likely to work fast enough for VR yet.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamVR-for-Linux/#known-issues [External Link]

OpenGL applications are currently too slow to use interactively; only the Vulkan Submit path is optimal. See: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/openvr/wiki/Vulkan [External Link]

Dave Airlie mentioned that for example radeonsi is missing extensions that would would make it fast.

I suppose that's a valid point, but I mean if we talk about using Nvidias proprietary drivers, wouldn't that be fast enough?

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I've never really understood the Vulkan only deal with SteamVR on Linux. Why now allow OpenGL and let the developers decide whatever works?

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"It is not cross-platform with Windows." And here we go again.

I already know why, same reason as with the others. But seriously this is really frustrating. I'm sad that this will be another port I will not support.

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I love Feral, but if this turns out to be another game without crossplatform multiplayer support then no thanks.

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Quoting: PeciskIt still is. Just to support VR developers will have to port to Vulkan. As 99% games use engine who has Vulkan support planned - along with VR support - I doubt that will be big problem.

Still that's kinda a bummer. While I love Vulkan, OpenGL works with VR on Windows...someone that wants to port that over to Linux shouldn't need to convert it to Vulkan in my opinion. What is it that makes VR only work with Vulkan on Linux?

Quoting: GoLBuzzkillFirst, if it is up to developers they will always pick D3D and PSGL/GNM/GNMX. Second, state of OGL performance and support on Linux is terrible (in Mesa and AMD drivers), for VR you need performance, so they are hoping that forcing Vulkan will save them.

Terrible? It's more or less the same state as OGL on Windows.

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