Probably won't be long before I pick it up! :)

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Between me and the kids, I'd have to buy several copies. That's the only thing holding me back thus far. Maybe I can convince them to use birthday money they get from others. ;)

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Quoting: stickyparadigmThe artwork on this looks amazing but those environments are as dull as can be.

I agree, and I think it's due to procedural generation.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThere are things about the world which are improving. Computer games keep getting better . . . all else being equal, I believe higher technology tends to make things better. It certainly makes people more productive. In fact, with the degree to which technology and productivity have improved over the last 50 years, if all else was equal, if the system was merely holding other elements the same, there would be no faintest shadow of doubt that everyone's lives were way better. If one member of a household with a middle-income full time job could keep a nuclear family in a middle class lifestyle then, it should take maybe one 20-hour-a-week job to do the same now. Instead it takes two full time jobs, sometimes more, and the resulting lifestyle is less secure. Something wrong with the picture.

I can't follow this paragraph. You begin saying that technology makes things better and productivity has improved. But then you point out how dual income in a nuclear family is almost a requirement to maintain a middle-class lifestyle these days. Was there supposed to be a big however or something before you exemplified the higher costs of living? Was it tongue in cheek, possibly saying that there is something wrong with the outcome of higher productivity since it hasn't equated to higher standards of living?

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I totally thought this was by Klei Entertainment until you said itch.io
Not promising I'll pick it up, but it looks great.

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Quoting: orochi_kyoI can perfectly see why Nanobang linked both terms "capitalism" and "fascism" inside the figure of an authoritarian system as "dictatorship", it has a historical background which should be checked first instead of recommending to read someone else opinion, which is pretty much what you suggested(I guess you believe that anyone who make this kind of comparisons between capitalism and any non-democratic system is a radical person).

What's wrong with reading an opinion?

Anyway, I want it on record that I didn't call anyone a radical. Your deduction is not correct this time.

FWIW, I liked reading your response. I don't understand why you have to demean me for pointing out an opinion and asking questions.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThis is described as a "dictatorship". Should he rethink his direct connection of fascism and (dictatorship + capitalism)? I mean, if you consider there to be no real difference between capitalist states that are and aren't dictatorships, well, despite my cynicism about current representative forms of democracy, I'd still want to see a case made before I bought it.

I guess I don't see where fascism and capitalism came out of the game description or video.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyAnd I'm not sure he's that much less gullible now that he's discovered the wonders of the status quo than he was when he was the most gullible kind of radical. He'd picked a couple of tracts to be influenced by and ignored everything else, and now he's picked a couple of different ones. Doesn't seem like, either then or now, he had any very solid ideas about how things actually work; the article basically is his account of deciding to accept the black box of political economy as a black box with faith, rather than pessimism, ruling his relationship to it.

(Emphasis added)

It seems to me, based on his credentials, that he has pursued understanding in those areas at least. You can't quite write a whole chapter or "about the author" piece for every Internet publication and expect to get much readership. I say he chose an angle and wrote to it.

Quoting: Purple Library Guy...his position basically implies that one shouldn't have political opinions other than "Whatever is, is right".

I felt a little bit of that complacency attitude I think you're getting at, but I wouldn't boil his position to be that simple and then apply it generously to the whole world. What stood out the most to me as a theme was (his definition of) radicals ignoring presented facts.

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Quoting: Nanobang2. I find the idea of playing on the side of a "dictatorship of a failing petrostate" to be only slightly more disheartening than playing "a brutal jihadist insurgency" opposing it. Which is to say, I don't want to play either side, neither fascist capitalist henchmen or fanatical religious thugs. Blech.

Jihad is not just for fanatics. It might be that way in this game. But it more generally means struggle. If the dictatorship declared a legal (in their definition) war against the insurgency, both sides would be jihadists.

I'd also rethink your direct connection of fascism and capitalism. Maybe give this well-written article [External Link] a read.

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Perhaps it's time to start playing this game that I bought so long ago. :D Hopefully I love it. I loved Shadownrun: Dragonfall and likewise look forward to what they're making next.

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Ooo, count me interested. Also cool that it's coming to GOG.

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