SteamOS is the only one losing weight in December.

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Will be my Christmas present :D

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Quoting: ArehandoroNo, it doesn't. Cloud providers need to have their equipment constantly on, with redundancy, capacity for demand surges, UPS systems, industrial cooling... and all this replicated throughout all their data centres to cater audiences around the world.

Why would you want to have more PCs running than what the customers of the next say 20 seconds would need? And even if double the customers log in, have them wait for one boot, it's not like it still takes 5 minutes nowadays... I don't have numbers, but usually an industrial solution to satisfy 100 needs is cheaper than 100 individual ones.

For a variety of reasons:

1. Because powering a server on requires more than 20s. The server needs to initialize, load all the components, and the software that later on the customers will use. The only way to provide a seamless experience is having the equipment on. Of course, this is at the data centre level, not the application level. The app should be agnostic to this.

2. Because economically speaking, you wouldn't buy hardware that is going to be turned off. You calculate your usage, customers, etc, and when the total usage going beyond x% you buy more.

3. Data centre equipment is meant to be on. I know of countless cases where a server had been turned on for ages, working fine, and the moment it got shut down for maintenance, never came back to life again.

4. Monitoring and alerting will fire every time one goes up/down, or will require extra work to make sure there are no faux alarms.

On what way is cheaper? For me to have a 16cpu, 64GB RAM server* nothing is cheaper than owning it myself. It's also powered on only when I need it, saving energy too.

* By server, in my case, anything with those requirements will do. Nothing to do with the monstrosities ran in the cloud like EPYC or Threadripper.

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Quoting: Guestand on a side note this benefits environment too.

No, it doesn't. Cloud providers need to have their equipment constantly on, with redundancy, capacity for demand surges, UPS systems, industrial cooling... and all this replicated throughout all their data centres to cater audiences around the world.

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Gotta admit, Beamdog does share love throughout their catalogue.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: elmapulfor example, in my country, if i count air tv and cable tv, we had 100 animes broacasted in total across 3~5 decades, there are 10.000 animes on my anime list alone (not to mention its an incomplete list, it dont have the indie non official touhou animes for instance), crunchroll dont have everything, but at least it has 700 animes any given month.

This is a really good point, tbh, and re-enforces why monopolies are bad - if they control what content you watch, you're severely restricted as a focused client of that service. But while dealing with multiple streaming services feels bad, they're still actually really cheap compared to what we used to pay for scheduled television, and they allow a huge degree of control over what you watch.

My primary gripe is really just finding content sometimes. And a minor gripe about how different services look different. And handle end-of-show credits. And how quickly they stream the next episode before I can find the remote control to turn off auto-stream. So frustrating.

Okay, so a few gripes. Still better than a monopoly though.

In Germany there was Sky for soccer/football. Bundesliga and Champions League... all you needed in one small package if you wanted to watch every game.

Then they had to split up the rights, because it was claimed that competition is good for the customer. Then the rights went to Sky for the Saturday games, but the Friday games were on Eurosport. And some games were exclusive to DAZN/Amazon or whatever. Total clusterfuck and more expensive than before.

Yeah, my point was aimed at scheduled content, but in my head I'd excluded sports for some reason. Sports feels really, REALLY overpriced to me. I pay £21/month for all the tv and movies in the world, but I have to pay nearly £30 a month for the F1??

I suppose it's not targeted. I get all the football, all the golf, all that other stuff I'll never watch. I pay that nearly £30/month for pretty much 2 hours of telly a fortnight, which is a shockingly frustrating model. I guess if they did it any other way, we wouldn't have 22 millionaires kicking a ball around a field.

Unfortunately, I think it'd be the other way around. If they were to be targeted, potentially with football package being cheaper, the amount of people paying only for football would increase, where other less common sports would suffer to get revenue from TV royalties.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80Don't know what you are all on about onlive is where it's at..... Oh wait it died just like all the gaming streaming sites will or it fragment just like streaming TV Netflix used to have everything now there are exclusives and you need multiple subscriptions to see everything

Yeah. On one hand, monopolies are definitely bad. On the other hand, I went from a £6.99 Netflix sub to:

Netflix family: £9.99
NowTV + Sports package: around £25 in total, per month
Disney: £7.99
Prime: £7.99

And of course, my cabled TV connection, which includes my 300mb internet and a landline I never use: £70

Like, yeah, monopolies are really, really bad (just look at Microsoft), but how much would Netflix have had to put up their prices, per month, before people complained? Because even taking out NowTV, if they'd DOUBLED their prices, it would still be cheaper for the consumer than dealing with Netflix+Disney+Prime.

That said, before streaming services existed, I paid Virgin for their "Everything" package and it was just over £100 a month, which included Sky Sport and Sky Movies, and was therefore much cheaper than all this multiple-streaming-service juggling!

And don't even get me started on my £16.99/month spotify family plan.

With inflation going through the roof, at least we can save some meals we'd have at a pub lol and we can still say it isn't as bad as train tickets, though xD

In my case, don't even want to think in the amount of money I end up spending on the likes of Linux Foundation, A Cloud Guru, HyperSkill... Or even in Cloud solutions like DigitalOcean, AWS, etc.

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Quoting: scaineYeah. On one hand, monopolies are definitely bad. On the other hand, I went from a £6.99 Netflix sub to:

Netflix family: £9.99
NowTV + Sports package: around £25 in total, per month
Disney: £7.99
Prime: £7.99

My solution to that problem: rotation. View stuff on one. Cancel, subscribe to the next and view there, cancel and so on until I'm back at number 1. Won't work for your sports stuff, but hey, if you want that, you're bound to get cheated. :tongue:

Also, glass fibre internet now and cable tv: cancelled.

It's a good idea, but that requires effort.

I came to realize we can't enjoy or have everything, so decided to get one service/subscription and enjoy it as much as possible. By the time there isn't anything I want to watch there, maybe your suggestion can come to play.

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How did I miss this? The game captivated me, and scared me, when I first played it. Definitely would recommend to anyone interested in point & click games.

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Another project that Google will abandon.

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