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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: GuestEvery product is different and the ideology is the least important difference between them.

For you. Not for me. The ethos of a company, its ethical stance, and its impact on fostering a cultural shift to open methodologies is the single most important aspect of choosing my hardware. Then it's performance, then it's heat/noise/efficiency. Finally, its price comes into consideration.

It's weird to me that you're commenting on a Linux site and don't understand this, or somewhat buy into it. But I suppose as Linux increases in popularity, there will be more and more people like yourself who don't care about open standards (or least, care as much as others do).

If your number-1 metric is vanity then you're destined to make bad decisions. I can see that you have a 4k display but you use an 5700xt which is not good for 4k at all, it's just an entry-level 1440p card. I don't know how up-to-date your profile is, but you only have one display and you use x11 - wayland and its better multi-display support is the key selling point of AMD.

For most people(>99%) the driver stability, price/performance, performance/watts, warranty programs and supported bonus feae linux and its desktops because of its features(and the lack of some "features"). Developers choosetures will matter the most because they will be the ones delivering value. 3rd party coolers can solve the heat and noise issues.

What is really weird is that linux users supposed to be conscious customers who know that there is more to software and hardware than popularity and other superficial metrics and yet here you are only considering open-sourceness which alone is not real value. Letting a single company be your sole supplier also sounds bad - this is how you get monopolies. Linux will never get really popular if it won't get with the times and deliver actual value instead of advertizing ideologies.

It's not about vanity, it's about control over your own hardware.
And wanting open source seems to have been a good business choice for AMD. Open drivers that don't need external proprietary blobs was a business choice - many data centres or internal company networks wanted precisely that. It was the driving factor behind AMD's decision.

Also, what's the loss in keeping with the ideologies that GNU/Linux is founded upon? Why feel the need to make it more popular if those values are lost? All you end up with is basically Apple or Microsoft, which will defeat the entire point of GNU/Linux. Popularity for its own sake is pointless in my opinion - make it open, make it well, and it will be used on its own merrits. There's a reason that GNU/Linux won the server space.

Linux won the server-space because of its features and performance, and because of companies like redhat and canonical which provide support. GNU/Linux is not a thing for the companies which pay for linux development, they only care about the linux kernel and what runs on it. Healthy competition is the key, not source availability.

Apple and ms are not related because linux is not a company, it's more like an investment between companies against those companies who just want to control the market. If linux gaming and the linux desktop wants to stay alive then it needs to concentrate on value: gaming and desktop UX, not just on open-sourceness. ms also has lots of OSS but they're only doing it to popularize themselves between developers who think OSS = perfect. They're still just a shady company.

We might as well wait for open-source games but we all know that would deliver little to no value for us but it would definitely hurt game developers.

Remember that the main goal of Free Software is being pro-customer - that's the ideology worth to pursue. OSS doesn't always mean that something is pro-customer but it's a good start. Open-source is more relevant if we have an active community which provides extra support - but it is still just one aspect. I use linux and its desktops because of its features(and the lack of some "features"). Most developers also chose linux because of its features and a lot more developers avoid it because of missing features. Linux is just a tool - it is used to get stuff done.

I, for a change, rather not have those mercantilistic (adding continuous value) views on my OS. I appreciate the effort from companies like Valve, Red Hat or Collabora, but they are companies anyway and while they support us, because it benefits them, they will turn the door on us at the very moment it's convenient for them.

I like Linux because with its openness creates an ecosystem that protects itself against that kind of practices, and monopolies, end of life support, etc. As long as there are people interested in a feature, independently of companies support, we will Linux thrive.

Linux won the server race way before RedHat or Canonical were powerful enough to gain the credit. Linux won the server race because people were allowed to make changes, publish them and everyone that used Linux benefited from it. It's a resemblance of human kind. We are able to thrive as a civilization because we can write down our findings and let people develop and learn upon those ideas, passing and expanding the knowledge.

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Quoting: ArehandoroI (usually) love fedora, and I love the changes introduced in 33. But the post, and comments so far, seem to miss the most important and controversial changes this iteration includes (for me); systemd-resolved as a default dns daemon.

For other complaints; I'm still waiting on docker fixing cgroup2 or having podman-compose on a production level capability.

Do you know the current status of docker and cgroups2?
I use docker quite frequently, Fedora32 sets the needed kernel arguments for still having support for older cgroups when installing docker. I guess this is still the same with Fedora33?

Not really. Not long ago I saw some issues on GitHub and seemed that they were being worked on, but no offical word on this.

Haven't upgraded to f33 yet, need to find some spare time at work first :D

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I (usually) love fedora, and I love the changes introduced in 33. But the post, and comments so far, seem to miss the most important and controversial changes this iteration includes (for me); systemd-resolved as a default dns daemon.

For other complaints; I'm still waiting on docker fixing cgroup2 or having podman-compose on a production level capability.

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Facebook, F@*£ OFF!

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I need the game and the soundtrack :D

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Quoting: Perkeleen_VittupääI like the 4th one.

Heresy!

P.S: I like the 3rd one, also a heretic for the purists I guess :D

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I have a 2600 + Radeon 5700. Considering the games I play, I will be waiting for AM5, Zen 4 and whatever GPU is out in a year/couple of years*

* Except Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk think otherwise

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No need to change EndeavourOS Liam: https://github.com/pop-os/shell

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I use an XPS 13, originally with Windows, at work. Performance is nice, but the screen is horrible, flickering constantly -a lot of garbage when unplugged- and the keys and feel aren't of my like. I'm even considering returning the laptop to my employer and get one that I like for myself and use it for work.

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I've been in love with ScummVM for decades.

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