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I used LD_PRELOAD on the command line and it didn't work. When I used LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 %command% in launch options it did work.

Ah, isn't that an entirely different thing? I think you've only used your native libstdc and the include path was still pointing to the Steam runtime.

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Liam, could you use this opportunity (assuming the Linux version is coming at all) to ask the developer some numbers few months after release? It would be interesting to see how the volume of +1 cries correlates with the actual Linux sales and reviews in this case.

We had g+ conversation about similar subject not so long time ago and you weren't happy about my standpoint so I'll restrain myself from opinion but I hope you'll set some reminder and do the above simply because I'm really really curious.

Cheers!

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Quoting: omer666[...] GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference [...]

Any idea?

You probably solved but in case you didn't... Are you using some non-standard glibc libs? 3rd party maybe? Try installing the stable one from Fedora repositories. The libstdc++6 [External Link] would be the right package for Ubuntu so maybe it's named something similar in your distribution. If you don't want to change your OS libraries just LD_PRELOAD it in app properties.

Yes I sorted it out by completely disabling the Steam runtime, but the game has some big graphical bugs in combat, too bad...

How do you disable Steam runtime?

You need to have this as command line option:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="" %command%

It disables Steam Runtime for a single game. Very useful!

I tried the fedora libs, the steam version and versions from other game folders. Won't start with any of them, but it does start with "LD_LIBRARY_PATH="" %command%"

I thought setting "LD_LIBRARY_PATH" to an empty string is making it use Fedora libs (i.e. system libs in more general case)...?

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It made me think about Die By The Sword. I think it's the first game that did this sword-mouse mechanics... I wish it was on Linux, used to be awesome - especially the multiplayer arena. Well, one can dream, I guess.

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Quoting: omer666[...] GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference [...]

Any idea?

You probably solved but in case you didn't... Are you using some non-standard glibc libs? 3rd party maybe? Try installing the stable one from Fedora repositories. The libstdc++6 [External Link] would be the right package for Ubuntu so maybe it's named something similar in your distribution. If you don't want to change your OS libraries just LD_PRELOAD it in app properties.

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Quoting: cprnI want majority of AAA companies to go bankrupt because of those frauds.

Too bad it hurts the small guys the most.

Agreed, these guys succeeding makes little studios go away, not the big AAA ones :(

Okay, this is a side-effect. But nobody (as compared to the whole World population, I know we do) cares about little studios. If the big boys were to go down they would be crying loud and clear about how all those laws protecting solely card association's interests are very hurtful to the global industry and have to go.

Just think about it. I could right this moment connect through Chinese proxy, purchase a bunch of cd-keys from most of indy devs' on-line stores without any issues whatsoever, sell them on any e-commerce platform, including but not limited to G2A, and then call in fraud to my card's issuer saying I just noticed a weird debit. They'd charge it right back because they can shift the liability on the merchant. They can shift the liability on the cardholder as well if it was a 3D card because someone found out their date of birth or gained access to SMS via insecure mobile app with way too many permissions. People are unaware of how careful they have to really be whenever there's an on-line payment or CC data involved. You should never use the same machine for payment and other tasks (including web browsing and gaming) because it can get easily compromised. That goes for both, your PC and mobile. Never pay on-line with CC if you didn't check the store's PCI status (btw, PCI is weak, common sense is way stronger). Check for SSL. Check SSL's certificate authenticity. Never use same card for physical and on-line payment and many others puny countermeasures to prevent something that happens because cards were poorly designed from the very beginning and never meant to be safe for either store or the cardholder. On top of that many publishers, especially self-publishing indy devs, are oblivious to the necessity of paying (yes, paying extra) for the 3rd party risk assessment and deem avoiding it a money saving opportunity. It isn't! It's your cost if you want to earn any money without getting scammed! They often choose a non-3D gateway (so that even if the card is 3D the payment won't be) to shorten the purchase process and therefore increase their silly conversion. And when somebody abuses all those smart decisions, they whine about how G2A and similar are evil. I understand how easy it is to accuse the middle man. I just don't comprehend how someone can be smart enough to understand how the fraud works and at the same time not understand why is this very same fraud possible in the first place.

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Honestly, I want them to succeed. All of them - resellers, frauders, everyone involved. I want majority of AAA companies to go bankrupt because of those frauds. People are ignorant. If it was to happen it wouldn't be good for the industry, for gaming, for developers... but maybe, just maybe, it would be a freaking eye opener so that people would finally realise card payments are insecure, unsustainable infrastructure and no 3D can save it. Issuers never suffer, usually neither do IPSPs. The only victim is the end user, almost always! Either acceptant (merchant, game publisher, devs selling their game on their website) or the cardholder will have to bear the consequences of this unbelievably badly designed network being abused. It's our laziness and ignorance that made those frauds possible. Humanity deserves a hard lesson. I never bought anything from G2A but blaming an e-commerce platform and forbidding them from ceding responsibility on the end user, when this is exactly what card issuers do, is not even hypocritical but simply stupid. It's like blaming a hotel for renting a room to a serial killer.

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Honestly, I'm not disappointed at all. Learned that Windows developers are untruthful bitches long time ago. It's not even their fault, really... They just lack knowledge, skill and consistency. Period.

I'm waiting for a campaign that will say "knowing the marketing strategies of our competitors, we don't expect Linux community to support the title at all but we will release for Linux first anyway because it's what we use everyday and what we know best".

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I'd rather recommend the devs who use SDL2 to include it (or use the lib if allowed) in their own DRM-free releases instead of reinventing a wheel (probably badly) and / or making the end user go through hoops of using external application. Just my two (euro)cents.

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