Quoting: MayeulCSteam has supported multiple PCs being logged into the same account for some time now, since about the introduction of "remote play" (or "in-home streaming", as it was called years ago).

I'm aware of these features and use them. I'm also aware that when you try to play games independently on the same account, steam blocks you. If your a single PC/steam account type family, it's not a good solution. On the other hand I guess you could stream from your PC to your car? I've used the remote streaming a lot, but never outside of a LAN environment. Might be cool.

Quoting: MayeulCI'm pretty sure you can even restart in offline mode if you want to play simultaneously.

You can, sometimes. But you have to start in offline first. Logging in, trying to play a game, the restarting in offline so as not to boot the other player off doesn't always work. I'm not sure if it sets a local variable or or it phones home regardless claiming to be "offline", either way, the DRM does try to enforce it (although imperfectly). As a single Steam account family, I can fully attest to that. Besides not sure how easy that would be to do while driving.

I think the best way practically would be to setup up a dummy account for family sharing on the car. I think that solves my criticisms.

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Quoting: fleskTeslas support separate profiles for each driver for driving mode, seat and mirror adjustment, etc. I don't know if that will be integrated with Steam profiles at all though. Probably depends on the extent of collaboration between Tesla and Valve

Did not know that. Cool idea. Im not sure why they would need to collaborate with Valve to change profiles. If it's Linux under the hood and it's just switching users, seems like simple autostart would do that. No different than our PC's, right?

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Quoting: denyasisSo, I buy this car for me put steam on. I'm home playing a steam game. My spouse then takes my car to do an errand, it turns on, logs into my steam account ( kicking me at home off). So now I'm trying to call my spouse while they are running errands to go back to the car and close steam?

I can kinda see the criticisms that these innovations are all thought up of people that don't have to think about family life.

I thought Steam actually had some kind of family account thing.

They do! So you could presumably make a separate "car" account for your car and share the library with it. As long as two accounts don't access the same game at the same time, it's ok.

Of course, you'll have to redo your friends, workshop, etc for the new account, and achievements won't sync, or saves, etc. All so you don't get kicked off your account because someone in the family borrowed your car to go shopping.

So, I think the general IoT type criticisms that some of these things aren't really designed with multi-users or families in mind stands.

Mind you, to be fair, I don't have this car. Could it maybe some how ID the person driving and switch to the proper Steam account (and other setting)? Maybe. Hopefully we don't have to do the whole Steam Guard thing while driving, lol.

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So, I buy this car for me put steam on. I'm home playing a steam game. My spouse then takes my car to do an errand, it turns on, logs into my steam account ( kicking me at home off). So now I'm trying to call my spouse while they are running errands to go back to the car and close steam?

I can kinda see the criticisms that these innovations are all thought up of people that don't have to think about family life.

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Quoting: emphy

Quoting: denyasisI read the release, is there really that big of a market of devs that want to put more ads in games? Cause they seem really into making that a possibility for devs.

The question is: are ads going to be forced into the free license, or even some of the paid ones?

We could run into the situation that the end-user pays for a game and gets served ads because the dev doesn't have a financially viable option to prevent it.

They way I read it, this is for the dev to choose. It doesn't make sense to force ads (force the dev to make money?). And I doubt they are adding ads to their products. That doesn't make sense to me either. It seems like they are adding more ad integration (is that the right word?) options.

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I suppose, I don't use the numpad that often. And I'm sure there's market research that these companies use.

But... I like having it when I need it...
I guess I could buy a numpad accessory with some cool features to go with it.

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I read the release, is there really that big of a market of devs that want to put more ads in games? Cause they seem really into making that a possibility for devs.

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Quoting: MrowlLet's forget about GPD for a moment, if this is true, then the bigger story here is that Valve are reaching out to other Handheld Gaming PC companies to ship their devices with Steam OS. This would confirm that Valve doesn't consider these devices to be competition, as they help drive Steam OS adoption.

Makes sense. I would beleive the Deck doesn't likely turn a huge, if any profit. The money is in game sales. More devices with SteamOS leads to more sales on steam.

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Quoting: randyl

Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: GuestThey've pushed Proton to the point of it effectively becoming middleware.

Isn't that the point for Valve? It ties Linux to the Steam ecosystem garunteeing sales income.

It's a genius move.

Not at all. Steam makes it easy to use, but it isn't a requirement to use Proton at all.

Correct, but that's a minority of people. Most will use it via Steam. It appeals to convenience and does it well. That's the point.

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Quoting: GuestThey've pushed Proton to the point of it effectively becoming middleware.

Isn't that the point for Valve? It ties Linux to the Steam ecosystem garunteeing sales income.

It's a genius move.

Quoting: ElectricPrismI exchange money for support. In other words -- money in exchange for expecting my product to work.

What's support? Like what do we mean by that? People throw the word around and I'm not sure everyone's talking about the same thing. Is "support" a native release (regardless of quality or availability of future patches)? Is it updating the game to work with Proton/wine but only having a Windows version? Is it just sending out patches over time and hoping Valve keeps proton updated?

To me, support means a games works and future issues may be addressed. Wether it not it uses a translation layer doesn't really matter to me.

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