Quoting: Patola

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: PatolaBut Maniac Mansion was already playable in Linux inside Maniac Mansion 2 (Day of Tentacle Remastered). The complete game is accessible on the Arcade in the doctor's house.

Now you don't have to own another game to have it, simples.

Ok, then just a word of caution: Maniac Mansion is a good game, but it has lots of "points of no return", that is, you can screw up the sequence and get into a game state where you can't get to the end. Only after that game (or was it Zak McKraken?) LucasArts started making adventure games without points of no return (or deaths, for that matter).

It must have been after Zak because there where points of no return in that game, one very annoying one where you could feed some necessary item to the two-headed squirrel early in the game only to find out hours later that it was needed.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: orochi_kyoThese extreme hipsters are annoying, I support open software and indie gaming, but if big companies opens a door to developers for publish their games, why not taking the chance?
Steam contrary to console platforms are not signing exclusive deals, you can release your game everywhere, GOG, your site, Itch, Steam, etc.
Its Steam, not stupid Monsanto or Bayer.

Exactly how did you work in Monsanto here? Let's not go down the rabbit hole of those pro pseudoscience anti-GMO folks.

GMO crops are a lot like DRM on games. DRM makes games harder to play and maintain, and doesn't do what it's advertised to do (stop piracy), but it does allow invocation of draconian laws to control consumer behaviour (and in some cases, the behaviour of competitors). Genetic modification is bad for the crops and the consumers, but the point is it lets you patent those crops and thereby shut down competition, control farmers, etc. For the corporations involved, the actual benefits any given genetic modification is supposed to provide are almost beside the point (except "Round-up Ready", because that lets them sell vastly more herbicide).
Don't get me wrong, I find the technologies of genetic modification fascinating. But, they are currently not mature. Before CRISPR, the main approach involved sticking a gene on a tiny golden cannonball and shooting the thing randomly into a cell's nucleus and hoping something stuck. Imagine shooting code randomly into a computer program and expecting it to do only whatever that piece of code was "supposed" to be for. If the patenting angle didn't allow for monopoly profits they'd still be largely in the lab.

No that is not how it works. Before GMO things worked that way (by cross-breading or e.g atomic gardening). Genetic modification is done for the benefit of the crop and the farmer so no it's not bad for the crop and it's not bad for the consumer either. Where do you people get these ideas from?

You can patent any form of seed and in fact all the cross-breed and clones that the non-GMO farmers use are also patented so companies like Monsanto does not create GMO:s in order to be able to patent the seeds, patenting is a completely different issue. And btw the patent on round up have expired.

And no GMO producers like Monsanto can not control the farmers, it's the farmers who choose to use GMO crops due to their added benefits and most farmers even buy from different manufacturers simultaneously in order to see which crop grows the best on their specific soil.

View video on youtube.com

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Quoting: buenaventura

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: orochi_kyoThese extreme hipsters are annoying, I support open software and indie gaming, but if big companies opens a door to developers for publish their games, why not taking the chance?
Steam contrary to console platforms are not signing exclusive deals, you can release your game everywhere, GOG, your site, Itch, Steam, etc.
Its Steam, not stupid Monsanto or Bayer.

Exactly how did you work in Monsanto here? Let's not go down the rabbit hole of those pro pseudoscience anti-GMO folks.

Not that I really fancy getting into this kind of trolly discussion, but back at university I came across Vandana Shiva as a respected scientist, and she was quite angry about Monsantos practices. Wikipedia paints a sort of complex picture:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto#India [External Link]

Difficult to link suicides to cotton seeds fully I guess, but still, who loves a giant corporation? Who defends Monsanto except trolls wanting me to write this so that they can write something stupid back? :P

Seriously? Vandana Shiva is a horrible person that pretends to be scientific but who in reality is a pseudoscience woo peddler. That she is against Golden Rice should tell you just how crazy she is (better to let thousands of children suffer from blindness and death than to grow a GMO, really?!).

There is a reason why the League of Nerds calls her the Nicolas Cage of woo movies: View video on youtube.com

Oh and the Indian suicides have been happening for a long time way before Monsanto (or any other GMO company) entered the Indian market.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: F.UltraExactly how did you work in Monsanto here?

Probably their Mafia-style business practices, but I agree, let's keep this on topic.

What Mafia-style business practises? If you are talking about them suing innocent farmers or suicides in India then you have been told lies and myths.

Don't you mean "fake news"? :P

No, "fake news" are usually used by people like Trump when they don't like the truth.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: F.UltraExactly how did you work in Monsanto here?

Probably their Mafia-style business practices, but I agree, let's keep this on topic.

What Mafia-style business practises? If you are talking about them suing innocent farmers or suicides in India then you have been told lies and myths.

Quoting: ripperPublic domain is open source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_license#Public_domain_as_open_source_license [External Link]

Public Domain is not recognised by all countries, especially here in Europe.

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Quoting: orochi_kyoThese extreme hipsters are annoying, I support open software and indie gaming, but if big companies opens a door to developers for publish their games, why not taking the chance?
Steam contrary to console platforms are not signing exclusive deals, you can release your game everywhere, GOG, your site, Itch, Steam, etc.
Its Steam, not stupid Monsanto or Bayer.

Exactly how did you work in Monsanto here? Let's not go down the rabbit hole of those pro pseudoscience anti-GMO folks.

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I think that this dev makes an excellent point of why you should not release exclusively on one platform (Steam) but I don't really get the "I will therefore not release it at all on i.e Steam", but perhaps the work involved will not match the outcome (I don't know as I don't develop and publish games).

For me as a end user however I'm now reached that point in life where I'm just to old and tired to purchase a game unless it's on Steam. Far gone are the days where I scheduled "let's scan every site I bought a game on to see if there have been any updates".

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Quoting: lucinosI don't get it, why do they need name/company/etc just to download a report?

Among other things: to measure their "reach".

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: johndoeThe patch is now in mesa master.
This means that the next oibaf ppa mesa release should pick it up for ubuntu users.

I hope it also lands in 17.3.0 which is to be released this weekend.

Just tested Observer today with mesa 17.3.1 and still experience the black screen at that door. Do one have to remove some cache files for this to work or did the patch not land yet?

Sadly the patch landed only in master (mesa 17.4.0-devel) for now.
You need to install mesa master from Oibaf or Padoka PPA.

In the meantime I've found that "Steamroll" needs this patch too and reported this also to mesa devs asking them to backport the patch to mesa stable 17.3.x.
Look here ...
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104288 [External Link]

Tapani (from Intel) also found another game called "Refunct" and answered that he will attempt to push the patch to stable 17.3 too.

I used to use the unstable branch from Padoka but since his automatic build system pushes out DEBs even when the build fails for some of the packages it was always a "ok will my computer work now or will I have terminal only for a week until the next release" so I switched over to the stable branch.

Anyways, good to know that it's coming and that I was simply too eager :)

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Quoting: johndoeThe patch is now in mesa master.
This means that the next oibaf ppa mesa release should pick it up for ubuntu users.

I hope it also lands in 17.3.0 which is to be released this weekend.

Just tested Observer today with mesa 17.3.1 and still experience the black screen at that door. Do one have to remove some cache files for this to work or did the patch not land yet?

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