Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: scaineHowever, while that creates a folder with the same name as the release as usual, with Luxtorpeda, they've put the whole archive inside another folder, just called "luxtorpeda", so Steam doesn't see it (because it's a folder inside a folder).

Must be an archive manager specific thing, the KDE Ark didn't give it an extra folder. It's probably an option in your settings.

Doesn't do it for ProtonGE though, so I assume it's the way it's packaged.

Yeah, I've just tested "Extract Here" again, with ProtonGE and Luxtorpeda. They look like they're packaged the same, but they extract differently. Not sure how that works.

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Easy to see if you use the tar command directly and ask it to list the contents:
 
f.ultra@Sineya:~/Hämtningar$ tar -Jtvf luxtorpeda-30.tar.xz 
drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2021-08-07 22:43 luxtorpeda/
-rw-r--r-- root/root       233 2021-08-07 22:43 luxtorpeda/toolmanifest.vdf
-rw-r--r-- root/root       125 2021-08-07 22:43 luxtorpeda/config.json
-rw-r--r-- root/root      4406 2021-08-07 22:43 luxtorpeda/README.md
-rw-r--r-- root/root     15487 2021-08-07 22:43 luxtorpeda/LICENSE
-rwxr-xr-x root/root   6461024 2021-08-07 22:43 luxtorpeda/luxtorpeda
-rw-r--r-- root/root       228 2021-08-07 22:43 luxtorpeda/compatibilitytool.vdf
f.ultra@Sineya:~/Hämtningar$ 

edit: two theories here though, one is that your system handles .tar.gz and .tar.xz differently. Another is that whatever archiver you use looks at the top directory and if it doesn't match the filename it creates a dummy topdir, aka "luxtorpeda-30.tar.xz" have a topdir of "luxtorpeda" which does not match the name of "luxtorpeda-30" while "Proton-6.14-GE-2.tar.gz" have a topdir of "Proton-6.14-GE-2" that does match the name.

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Quoting: Alm888New API? I wonder, what will it be?
In my impression developers just need to target WIN32 API releasing for Windows and Valve will do the "magic". Well, that and Vulkan is preferable. At least Valve has said as much…

Well to be honest in order to fulfil "that will tell games if they're being run on the Steam Deck" that API could be just /etc/os-release :-)

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Linus Tech Tips have gotten a hands on with the deck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SElZABp5M3U [External Link]

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Quoting: TheRiddickOh, EA. Was thinking this was retail release.. ok, still gotta wait.

Oh it can wait alright, right there in my library.

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Quoting: TheBardI'm really sad for the people at Feral. They did a wonderful job with all their ports. They made among the best native ports and their support is excellent. I only had to contact the support once. They managed to find that my keyboard was making the game crash. I don't even understand now how they were able to find it but they were right.

But the next step for Linux gaming is definitely Proton so I guess we will see lesser and lesser native ports. Maybe if the Steam Deck becomes a massive success and the next version Proton's compatibility isn't perfect, then native ports may become a thing again.

I'm quite sure that native ports or rather native versions from the ground up will be a thing again. We are now in the middleground where things like proton is good enough but the userbase is still too small, at some point IF our userbase raises then some publisher will move away from being dependent on a 3d party (proton) to be in better control of their own software as well as being able to push things to their technical limits.

The huge problem with native ports now is not really proton, it's the fact that our userbase is still so small. Proton just made it more apparent/transparent.

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Äntligen! (Finally!)

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Quoting: kuhpunktEmbrace, extend, extinguish?

It's a publicly traded company as of yet, 61% of the share votes are held up by two owners, the founder Lars Wingefors controls 48% of the votes and S3D Media Inc controls 13% of the votes, the rest 39% is held by mostly pension funds.

They are also profitable and all except one subsidiary (Deep Silver) increased turnover this year so extinguish would be foolish on their part at this time. Before this recent acquisition they employed 5115 game devs, that quite a bunch :)

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Quoting: antisol

Quoting: F.UltraNah winter is -30°C and 20h darkness for 3 months straight, you should try that sometime ;)

I'd really love to, actually: Arctic winter is very high on my list of things I want to see. That's pretty far north, right? Norway Or sweden, perhaps? Canada or Alaska maybe?

I can't even conceive of that kind of cold.

Quoting: F.UltraNow during the heatwave I've had about 32°C at my computer desk, now that was horrible.

I once rode my motorbike from Uluru to Alice Springs on a particularly warm day. I was wearing full bike leathers and the air temp guage on the bike was reading 49. That was a bit hotter than the actual air temp that day because I was getting more heat from the road - the official temp in Alice was "only" 46 that day.

THAT was warm.

Sweden. Had a shop keeper in a local store when I lived in a different part of town that had escaped from Iran back in the day and he told me that when they travelled through Iraq it was so hot that they had to keep the windows of the car closed as to not get burned by the wind. They had then stopped at a store to buy some water but found the store empty except for a huge bucket in the middle of the store filled with water, out of the bucket a man sprung up and told them "no more water left in store" :-) That kind of heat would have instakilled me.

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Quoting: antisolBloody whinging pommies - 27 degrees is "hot", Lol. That's winter temperatures mate! :tongue:

Coincidentally, I saw an interesting thing about this exact subject not long ago, how e.g the houses are designed differently to keep heat in, and AC basically isn't a thing over there, so on a day where it's 27 outside it can get quite warm indoors.

...doesn't change the fact that you're whingers, though... ;)

Nah winter is -30°C and 20h darkness for 3 months straight, you should try that sometime ;). Had a family of a friend visiting in the early 90-ies from Senegal and they actually planned to buy a direct flight home at the airport when they landed :-)

Now during the heatwave I've had about 32°C at my computer desk, now that was horrible.

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Quoting: seamoose

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: seamooseThat is incorrect. What Wolfire is alleging is that Valve tried to prohibit Wolfire from selling its games on other stores at a lower price than what they are priced on Steam even if Wolfire did not provide Steam keys for purchases on those other stores (e.g. DRM-free, Epic keys, etc.)

If true, I do feel that Valve is abusing its dominant status in the PC games market. I can understand the requirement that if you distribute Steam keys in other stores then you should not price your games lower than on Steam, but that's not what Wolfire is saying.

That's confusing. I mean I could easily be mistaken, but why on earth would Valve even file the motion regarding:

"Plaintiffs’ allegations that Valve's Steam Key rules amount to an unlawful PMFN* fail for the straightforward reason that Valve, which created and owns Steam, has no duty under the antitrust laws to create a method (here, Steam Keys) for game developers to sell Steam-enabled games in stores that compete with Steam."

if it wasn't involving 3rd party distribution of Steam keys? It seems extraneous and non sequitur if that's the case.

Not sure who's telling the truth, thus my use of the word "alleging", but here's some previously posted background: David Rosen of Wolfire Games explains why they're taking on Valve in a lawsuit

In particular, from Rosen's blog post: "But when I asked Valve about this plan, they replied that they would remove Overgrowth from Steam if I allowed it to be sold at a lower price anywhere, even from my own website without Steam keys and without Steam’s DRM."

Yes, but then in the actual lawsuit they don't mention this case at all which is highly suspicious. I mean that since he claims that this happened to Wolfire directly then he should have access to first hand evidence but yet the single mention of anything like this in the lawsuit is point 155:

155.Valve has also threatened publishers that offered lower prices on other platforms, insisting that customers using the Steam Store should get a similar deal or else Valve may remove the publisher’s games from the Steam Gaming Platform altogether.

Valve has also interrogated publishers about their deals on smaller platforms like Humble Bundle or Discord that offer lower commission rates than Steam.

For example, Valve contacted publishers who released their games at a lower price on those competing platforms to demandsimilar deals on Steam.

Because of Valve’s pressure tactics, publishers were forced to revise their deals with Humble Bundle and Discord or withdraw their games from those platforms all together.

This could also be interpreted as some publishers simply replying "its, its, it's because Valve forced us" when Wolfire and Discord asked why the publishers withdrew their games. But then in his blog he claims to have first hand experience and yet zero mentioning of this in the lawsuit, it's not even in there as a claim so Rosen cannot even be used as a witness of his first hand experience (but IANAL) by Wolfires lawyers and that is beyond suspicious.

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