Quoting: Alm888Overall, if we look at the picture as a whole, it seems this is a market share war and Microsoft seems to be the lead in this "dance". Valve does not act; it reacts to Microsoft's input.

And as we all know, Villains Act, Heroes React [External Link]. :grin:

Quoting: Alm888And CDProjekt? A reaction to a reaction… Does English have a word for that?

A counter-reaction?

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: subIf Valve is serious about Linux, I'd still propose charging like 5 % less Valve fee if the published game features a Linux build.

That wouldn't help.

Sure, it would encourage them to press the "build for Linux" button for some free money, which is more than many devs do, but it wouldn't encourage them to do any testing or provide any support. At all.

"But," you might say, "the discount should only apply to proper Linux versions, not those other ones," and suddenly Valve has to be a gatekeeper, creating lots of uncertainty for devs as to whether they'll have their funds withheld, and Valve are having to do (a lot) more work in exchange for less money.

Hmm, what about 5% less Valve fee on every Linux purchase only? Then developers have incentive to make a good Linux version and to get people to buy it on Linux, without Valve necessarily having to play gatekeeper. Players can vote with their wallets and refund if they don't like it. Hearing devs begging players to buy on Linux would be amazing. :whistle:

Of course, the time to have done something like that is a few years ago, since any purchases on an unmodified Steam Deck will be a Linux purchase anyway, which would skew the numbers somewhat once it comes out (I think that's how it works even if you play on Proton, right?). But maybe that'll make developers more interested in a Linux version if the fraction of Linux purchases goes up over time even without any direct monetary incentives on Valve's part…

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Haven't played RimWorld in a while now, and the first expansion didn't really catch my interest, but this one seems a bit more interesting. Might get back into it soon…

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That's cool about Valve limiting games to one appearance (per year, it sounds like) to give more devs a chance to show their stuff off. I know I've found a few games through previous Next Fests (demos help a lot for getting me interested in something coming!) and look forward to more in the future.

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Hmm, the fact that they didn't mention it specifically but only in reply to a question sounds like they got caught out by the question and scrambled to come up with a PR spin: "Oh, uh, yeah, sure, we'll totally support it if it gets big enough! (And conveniently never quantify how 'big' that is.)" But maybe I'm just cynical. :grin:

Just to clarify, I don't hate Ubisoft or anything, as I'm not interested in their games and haven't played any, so if they actually do end up "bringing their games to the Steam Deck" (whatever that entails) I'll be happy for all the people who want to play them. :smile:

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyShe's older, but as far as I can tell the younger supposedly all tech-savvy generation is pretty much the same--they're just really comfortable clicking those icons, but they mostly don't look beneath that.

A bit off-topic, but a friend of mine was talking this past week how she was teaching students in high school and had to show them how to do complicated computer things like…creating a folder to put their project photos in (it was an art class), or selecting more than one file at a time. :dizzy: Apparently "digital native generation" doesn't automatically equate to "knows anything about computers beyond surface level"! :happy:

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Quoting: fleskI would have reserved the medium model day one, but unfortunately it's not available in the EEA countries. :sad:

Quoting: slaapliedjeIt has been pointed out that the person driving the car in the image with the kid in the back seat at https://www.steamdeck.com/en/hardware [External Link] is driving it wrong. That isn't how you drive a Tesla!

How so? I've only been driving a Tesla for a couple of weeks, but I can't tell what's wrong with the image.

EDIT: Assuming it's this image we're talking about: https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steamdeck/images/factorio-cover.jpg [External Link]

That looks perfectly normal to me.

My guess would be it's a joke about how you're "supposed" to be using self-driving and going hands-free, but I'm just spit-balling.

Hopefully with what seems like the massive interest shown so far Valve will step up manufacturing (to the degree they're able to do so) and introduce it to more regions soon.

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Quoting: LoftyBut the biggest question i have is at what cost is EAC / Battle-eye being integrated ? AFAIK these are extremely invasive pieces of software that many consider to be basically spyware.

Quoting: CatKillerIt's not going to be integrated into the kernel. There isn't time between now and December to get that done, even if were an uncontroversial thing that everyone agreed was a great idea. EAC already works on Linux, it's just that it erroneously detects Wine as a version of Windows that's been tampered with. It basically just needs to stop doing that. It might mean that it only ends up working in officially-from-Valve Proton using pressure vessel.

I saw a quote from one of the Valve devs (in one of the…many articles I've read in the past few days, so I don't have it to hand) that basically confirms this, they were talking in an interview as if addressing the anti-cheat software makers and saying "You'll have to run it in user space, not kernel space, but that'll still be fine" or something like that.

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Ars Technica has an article [External Link], quoting the creator of SteamDB, saying that due to some HTML data-scraping it looks like some 110k reservations were made in the first 90 minutes (before the oversight was fixed), with 71.6k for the top model, 33k for the middle, and possibly 10k for the lowest one. Obviously these are NOT official numbers so take them with a healthy dash of low-sodium salt, but they're an interesting best-guess estimate. :smile:

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Quoting: x_wingDon't forget that a lot of people have multiple accounts. It would not surprise me that we will have enough a good number of scalpers even with these countermeasures, people is quite greedy and steam accounts black market is expected at this point.

Yeah, it certainly won't be perfect, and I'm sure there'll still be people trying to game the system to make a quick buck; but we also probably shouldn't expect a single person ordering, say, a thousand units or more. I dunno. Valve may not want to release numbers if it's not as impressive as they'd hoped or for who knows what reason. It'd just be cool to have some numbers to argue over. :smile:

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