Quoting: AppelsinNow we're talking! ...Have anyone tried these (or other laptops from Tuxedo) and can comment on how the keyboard and touchpad are to use?

I was going to ask the same thing regarding the touchpad. The other item of slight concern for me is the non-replaceable/swappable 53 Wh battery, which I think is the bare minimum I would accept and I'd be a bit concerned about achieving all-day work battery life with that.

For me, it might be this vs the Framework laptop (3:2 screen, replaceable 55 Wh battery). Nice to have choices.

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Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: HoriSo... the battery's not upgradable? Unfortunately, for me, a long-lasting battery is the whole point of a laptop.

Edit: I configured a modest setup, 16GB ram, 500gb SSD. $935 USD. I think that seems fairly reasonable, right? Might have to save up for one

I certainly think that's very reasonable. My current laptop with those stats from '18 was 50% more. Upgrade to an i7 and it's $1399, and that's with a high res webcam, which not even the similarly 3:2 Thinkpad X1 Titanium has, and that's $2000+.

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Bummer, 16:9 screen... I can't go back to it after having had many years of 3:2 laptop screens. I think the only vertically larger native option are the Lenovo Thinkpads and the Dells....

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Quoting: Guestso i fully switched from xfce to gnome 40.

So, I guess for some DE's like XFCE, Budgie, and Cinnamon that the advent of a mature Wayland is going to be a really existential moment when they decide to become "legacy" DE's, pack it in, or invest the time, energy, and effort that KDE and Gnome have in working with Wayland.

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A winemaking simulator! Wow, fill. every. sim. niche. now... That said, the idea does sound kind of interesting...

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Quoting: Luke_NukemThis work plus the 470 driver fixing hybrid laptop things is pretty exciting

Absolutely, very big news that allows Wayland to really be a complete solution for nearly everyone now.

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Quoting: BielFPsI hope Wayland become default to the next Ubuntu LTS version too. In my opinion this would help developers to realize that wayland is now the standard and start to port their apps to it, since Ubuntu is still the "main" distro for those entering the Linux world.

Anyway, I am probably going to jump ship soon anyway. I have been a long-time Ubuntu user, but their push towards Snap is a dealbreaker for me.

That is why I left the Ubuntu ecosystem myself a while back. Snaps sound like they'll eventually be a great solution (once themes and performance are worked out) for network admins and Linux-hesitant developers looking for one distribution method to rule them all, but I see very little advantage for me as a desktop user and the downsides are obvious.

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Quoting: iiariI can't speak for GNOME, as I don't use it, but I have heard their Wayland support is a lot further ahead than KDE Plasma's.

Quite right. I haven't used the most recent Wayland KDE build (which is supposedly a solid step forward), but as recently as just a few months back the Gnome build was far ahead, virtually "normal" feeling, while over on KDE you'd trip over lots of broken or unoptimized functionality all over the place and it was quite annoying. Again, though, supposedly the latest edition (I haven't tried) is better.

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Quoting: BielFPsI hope Wayland become default to the next Ubuntu LTS version too. In my opinion this would help developers to realize that wayland is now the standard and start to port their apps to it, since Ubuntu is still the "main" distro for those entering the Linux world.

Agreed. I've been using Manjaro Gnome Wayland for the better part of a year now on my work laptop and it's terrific. I have no idea how gaming is on Wayland, though, as I game on my Manjaro KDE xorg desktop.

How is Wayland for gaming right now?

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Wonder why they're all leaving now... Perhaps Canonical isn't moving as fast as some would like to sell out and have a big payday for some who have been there a long time and they're tired of waiting? Perhaps Canonical is downgrading desktop as a priority? Who knows...

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I said years ago scenarios similar to this are the future of "Linux" gaming - making sure that tomorrow's browser and streaming based games work on Linux. Platform agnostic really works for us, and for everyone, and floats all the boats. I have huge respect for Eve online. Sadly, I don't have the amount of time required to play the game with any proficiency, but I'm thrilled it's a "Linux" option now...

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