Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Beamboom... And this is exactly what the pessimists were worried about.

And it's also what the optimists were hoping for. Instead of maybe just giving up Linux support completely, the developer now looks out for Steam Play compatibility at least. What's the harm in it? If you want the game, you will be able to play it on Linux.

Problem is , what kind of compability they would be looking for?

Using Wine / Proton just as a surface for not dealing Linux specific things but using OGL or Vulkan in their game , not including crazy drm etc
OR
Just hoping it works alright with existing Windows version?

There is a huge difference between them.

"By "official support" for Proton we mean that if issues specific to Proton occur we will work on fixing them, not just write them off to "well it's a weird emulator on Linux we don't support that"."

Is that sounds realistic to you? Seriously , devs who can't deal with native build will fix issues on Proton side things which i'm sure they never used Wine before.

Eventually, all they can do will be reporting issues to Wine tracker in order to get them fixed

I'd say if that's really so, we're better off with a Proton version all the more.

So that is not supporting SteamPlay , that is expecting SteamPlay to support their title.

Which i was all debating from the start.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: mao_dze_dunAs usual everybody hurried to be b*tthurt when a developer drops Linux support, because who can think of an actual legit reason for an undestaffed small studio with no Linux experience not to offer day one perfect native support. But hey - the forum talk heads definitely know better that the people actually making the game. Gosh, I hate that entitled attitude...

Anyway, the follow-up Liam posted is very sensible and they definitely made the right call. If it runs with close to Windows performance and they work on Proton compatibility problems - who cares if it's not native. Half the "ports" are Windows games in a wrapper. Maybe soon you can start reviewing official Proton games, too, Liam.

Don't expect me to believe that.

last but not least, on Linux our OpenGL renderer was at least 30% slower than it's DirectX implementation (weird since the same code flies on Mac).

https://icculus.org/finger/icculus?date=2016-04-25&time=03-02-30 [External Link]

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Beamboom... And this is exactly what the pessimists were worried about.

And it's also what the optimists were hoping for. Instead of maybe just giving up Linux support completely, the developer now looks out for Steam Play compatibility at least. What's the harm in it? If you want the game, you will be able to play it on Linux.

Problem is , what kind of compability they would be looking for?

Using Wine / Proton just as a surface for not dealing Linux specific things but using OGL or Vulkan in their game , not including crazy drm etc
OR
Just hoping it works alright with existing Windows version?

There is a huge difference between them.

"By "official support" for Proton we mean that if issues specific to Proton occur we will work on fixing them, not just write them off to "well it's a weird emulator on Linux we don't support that"."

Is that sounds realistic to you? Seriously , devs who can't deal with native build will fix issues on Proton side things which i'm sure they never used Wine before.

Eventually, all they can do will be reporting issues to Wine tracker in order to get them fixed

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Beamboom... And this is exactly what the pessimists were worried about.

And it's also what the optimists were hoping for. Instead of maybe just giving up Linux support completely, the developer now looks out for Steam Play compatibility at least. What's the harm in it? If you want the game, you will be able to play it on Linux.

Problem is , what kind of compability they would be looking for?

Using Wine / Proton just as a surface for not dealing Linux specific things but using OGL or Vulkan in their game , not including crazy drm etc
OR
Just hoping it works alright with existing Windows version?

There is a huge difference between them.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Lol , supporting SteamPlay my a..

Definition of supporting SteamPlay : we wouldn't mind extra cash but we also don't want to make any effort towards it.

Most they will do is not using a Drm which is also not an issue in indie titles ever.

So after all , supporting SteamPlay means nothing.

I can understand big shots won't support Linux directly but easen out SteamPlay usage with using Vulkan , using at least compatible drm's etc but when it comes from an indie dev it means nothing.

Also that is a bad sign if every title goes for that route , even Valve can't overcome with all titles tied to SteamPlay kind of situation.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

I hopped to Linux four years ago thanks to Windows and Steam. Seriously ; i was trying Linux distros from USB drives/ DVD's for years but it never meant something solid to me without games.

I dualbooted at first ; tried many games. Once i decided i was ok with natively available games on my library , ditched Windows entirely. It just lives in a VM now , just for some edge cases.

I'm still a noob compared to many of you Linux veterans but in these four years i only saw gaming on Linux platform just gone forward.

Both from drivers side and with available games.

I really hope that Proton can help with 1 percent market share goal anytime soon.

Since it is good to have such an option ; Linux still needs visibility.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: GuestHoly shit that game's still being developed?

Well , still being maintained is more appropriate imo.

updating an engine to 64 bit is a lot more than basic maintenance. Bethesda made a whole new release out of it for Skyrim, and for good reason (even if everyone seemed to be mad about it despite it being the #1 most requested feature for skyrim...)

1-) Skyrim is a whole another beast.

2-) Skyrim update included a graphics overhaul, 64 bit support and Bethesda Creation Club mod integration.

It is really not suitable to compare these two.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: GuestHoly shit that game's still being developed?

Well , still being maintained is more appropriate imo.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Kudos to TaleWorlds! Only succesful gaming company from my country , i wish them best!

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: wvstolzing

Quoting: YoRHa-2BSame goes for AGS. Granted, I've only seen one single game so far where AGS is a problem, that being Assassin's Creed Syndicate, but it has the exact same issue. Runs fine on AMD after spoofing an Nvidia GPU.

This is somewhat off-topic, but regarding Assassin's Creed -- when do you think the fix for the uplay login bug, which came in wine-staging 3.19 a while back, would be incorporated in 'regular' wine, and proton?

These connectivity issues ( Uplay, Quake Champions etc ) needs a Steam Runtime update for gnutls. Which is WIP.

View this comment - View article - View full comments